How am in doing with this sag woman

This topic was created in the Sagittarius forum by Breeze on Saturday, April 29, 2023 and has 56 replies.
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Me- Libra sun, Leo moon, Libra merc, Virgo venus and libra rising.

Her- Sag sun, Aries moon, Cap merc, Scorp venus and Sag rising

Weve been talking for a month. Kind of hit it off great off the bat. Once we started texting became more frequent and then she initiated the calling. Every morning I get a good morning voice text and we talk at night. She’s busier than me so when she’s free she text/calls, I set up the dates. Have gone on 7 dates so far. Are they dates vs hanging out not too sure.. she also mentioned me in a large fb group that we went out one weekend. Also calls me “love”. I know that’s a sign of endorsement but can that have more meaning behind it since we’re seeing each other? The last two dates I asked a for a kiss and she had no problem kissing me. She compliments me every time we’re together. I asked her what she thought so far because she’s kinda hard to read. Some responses to her is like she’s just being friendly. She said she likes the experience thus far, she comfortable, likes my energy and we have fun together.

Shes different from other sag woman from my past because we usually have sex fairly quickly. During the date last night she mentioned she likes to slow walk things. I have no problem with the pace because I like her and want to see where this can go.

So basically the question is, keep doing what I’m doing and let it play out since she’s hard to read. Any pointers I can do to that sag woman like/want deep down that she won’t say?
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if you are having trouble reading her I suggest paying attention to what aspect(s) are affecting her venus and merc that will get you in the realm of where she sees you because anything is really possible with a scorpio venus.
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if you are having trouble reading her I suggest paying attention to what aspect(s) are affecting her venus and merc that will get you in the realm of where she sees you because anything is really possible with a scorpio venus.
Can you give me a example so I can fully understand?
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Posted by GeminiJim
I don't see what possible good can come from thinking about this..
You said you are happy with the pace, you like her, she likes you

Have you heard the saying "when your horse is running well, don't stop to feed it sugar"?

lol actually I haven’t. Guess it means don’t stop/change a good thing?
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I don't see what possible good can come from thinking about this..
You said you are happy with the pace, you like her, she likes you
Have you heard the saying "when your horse is running well, don't stop to feed it sugar"?


lol actually I haven’t. Guess it means don’t stop/change a good thing?
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Kind of
It means if things are going well then don't stop or change what you are doing in the hopes of enhancing things as there's just as much chance you might mess things up. Wait until you sense something is needed before changing anything
Like if you own shares in a company and they are steadily going up in value then just leave them, don't start buying more or selling them off as it's possible you end up screwing up a good thing
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Gotcha! My libra ways of overthinking is to blame lol

Definitely believe in that tho. In other words, “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it”.
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Stop getting all up in your head..

If you go down that "how do I.." path or mindset YOU will create unnecessary problems...(Unless you haven't been truthful, why ask if you don't have a doubt?..)

Anywho, we Sags can't hide shiz so you'd know.
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Stop getting all up in your head..
If you go down that "how do I.." path or mindset YOU will create unnecessary problems...(Unless you haven't been truthful, why ask if you don't have a doubt?..)

Anywho, we Sags can't hide shiz so you'd know.
I’ve been genuine. Guess it’s cause I’m not used to the slow walk pace of things. Everyone kinda “rushes” me into things. On flip side where’d that get me.. single lol so that’s part of why I’m cool with the pace. It’s different and creates more of a bond.
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Posted by Weeds
if you are having trouble reading her I suggest paying attention to what aspect(s) are affecting her venus and merc that will get you in the realm of where she sees you because anything is really possible with a scorpio venus.



Can you give me a example so I can fully understand?
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fill in her chart her

https://horoscopes.astro-seek.com/

then look down to the merc aspects and venus aspect. copy them and past them here so we can take a look at them.
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Give her time for anything she ain't ready for. Sag loves freedom, you being pushy is unacceptable. Just go with her flow if you like her. If she is ready for intimate, you will know as she will be open to go to a special place for that. If she said she ain't ready then give her time. Don't lie or cheat, it's hard for us Sag to trust you again if you cheat. We will think of you as a cheater forever, she will have a trust issue even if you ever get back together. As far as your story goes, it seems everything went well. She still keeps in touch with you. If she dislikes you, no text or call you will get from her. As for me, I only chat with important people.
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Not gonna lie, you sound a bit boring for a Leo moon. I expect Libras to be boring but not Leo moons. Imo, I need to see more action by you. You must have some awesome banter between you too.

Are you the guy in this puzzle? Why are you “the guy” waking up to good morning texts from a girl. Why are you “asking” for a kiss. Feel the mood and go for it.

Don’t get friendzoned

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Her initiating is good, however just make sure you're prepared for the pullback. Women will inevitably pullback and then men get confused. Don't freakout if she skips a morning or two.

Don't ask for a kiss. You'll talk yourself out of the booty here. If you're 7 dates in, you should be sleeping with her by this point. evaluate the logistics for sex and set the mood. Invite her over to make dinner and read her body language.

You're dating, but not exclusive. She'll let you know when she wants things to progress. Let her worry about the title and where things are going.
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Posted by Midnite_Riser
You have to put her to some things to really test out what kinda person she is. Like how she deals with bad situations,etc. If she wants sex quickly, that's definitely a typical Sag. You better be fun. Engage into lots of sex, take her out places where you can drain her energy. If you're going to be the typical ''lets go to this restaurant, let's go to that restaurant'' she will get bored. Go somewhere where you 2 can get physically involved, be VERY playful. Saggs love playfulness and jokes. When she gets kinda ''girly'' and giggly and laughy. (which I exhibited in both Sun in Sag women and Moon in Sag women), that's the state that you want her in because it means you have stimulated her passion. And that, will get you paid faster than you think. And during sex, make sure you engage in lots of playful banter and sexual innuendos. Sag women love that sh**. You can't be afraid to be borderline toxic.
I wasn’t going to say the “toxic” word but since you opened the door, I agree.

Especially if they have Scorpio placements.

Gotta learn how to straddle the line between hood guy and bad guy.
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Give her time for anything she ain't ready for. Sag loves freedom, you being pushy is unacceptable. Just go with her flow if you like her. If she is ready for intimate, you will know as she will be open to go to a special place for that. If she said she ain't ready then give her time. Don't lie or cheat, it's hard for us Sag to trust you again if you cheat. We will think of you as a cheater forever, she will have a trust issue even if you ever get back together. As far as your story goes, it seems everything went well. She still keeps in touch with you. If she dislikes you, no text or call you will get from her. As for me, I only chat with important people.
Haven’t been pushy. I give her plenty freedom. She still calls and text
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You have to put her to some things to really test out what kinda person she is. Like how she deals with bad situations,etc. If she wants sex quickly, that's definitely a typical Sag. You better be fun. Engage into lots of sex, take her out places where you can drain her energy. If you're going to be the typical ''lets go to this restaurant, let's go to that restaurant'' she will get bored. Go somewhere where you 2 can get physically involved, be VERY playful. Saggs love playfulness and jokes. When she gets kinda ''girly'' and giggly and laughy. (which I exhibited in both Sun in Sag women and Moon in Sag women), that's the state that you want her in because it means you have stimulated her passion. And that, will get you paid faster than you think. And during sex, make sure you engage in lots of playful banter and sexual innuendos. Sag women love that sh**. You can't be afraid to be borderline toxic.
She’s slow walking things. Said she not the type to rush into things. We’ve been on fun dates. All the dates have been fun new experiences for her. She likes the mental stimulation we have going on
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Not gonna lie, you sound a bit boring for a Leo moon. I expect Libras to be boring but not Leo moons. Imo, I need to see more action by you. You must have some awesome banter between you too.

Are you the guy in this puzzle? Why are you “the guy” waking up to good morning texts from a girl. Why are you “asking” for a kiss. Feel the mood and go for it.

Don’t get friendzoned

Lol what are Leo moons like? I stimulate her mind. She just initiates them more. She even said she’s the type to text a guy first. Asking for the kiss cause i wasn’t sure how she was feeling cause she’s hard to read. Usually women give more hints or are all over me by now.
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Posted by LuckyLibra7
Her initiating is good, however just make sure you're prepared for the pullback. Women will inevitably pullback and then men get confused. Don't freakout if she skips a morning or two.

Don't ask for a kiss. You'll talk yourself out of the booty here. If you're 7 dates in, you should be sleeping with her by this point. evaluate the logistics for sex and set the mood. Invite her over to make dinner and read her body language.

You're dating, but not exclusive. She'll let you know when she wants things to progress. Let her worry about the title and where things are going.
We’ve talked about this and me giving her a massage and suck her toes lol . Her reply was at a later date.

Why not ask for a kiss or should I just go for a kiss is what you’re saying?
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Leo moons to Aries moon have a magical quality to them. They are naturally drawn to each other.

As long as she’s still communicating, going on dates with you and hanging out, she’s into you.

Try getting her alone in a private space if you are wondering about intimacy. Some Sags are fast, some are slow. Scorpio Venuses like privacy and it either will happen or it won’t- but she may not be ready, so don’t take it as rejection if she doesn’t move super fast in that department.

And why ask for kisses? Just do it.

Asking is boring, once the first one has been done.
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Posted by Midnite_Riser
You have to put her to some things to really test out what kinda person she is. Like how she deals with bad situations,etc. If she wants sex quickly, that's definitely a typical Sag. You better be fun. Engage into lots of sex, take her out places where you can drain her energy. If you're going to be the typical ''lets go to this restaurant, let's go to that restaurant'' she will get bored. Go somewhere where you 2 can get physically involved, be VERY playful. Saggs love playfulness and jokes. When she gets kinda ''girly'' and giggly and laughy. (which I exhibited in both Sun in Sag women and Moon in Sag women), that's the state that you want her in because it means you have stimulated her passion. And that, will get you paid faster than you think. And during sex, make sure you engage in lots of playful banter and sexual innuendos. Sag women love that sh**. You can't be afraid to be borderline toxic.
Toxic man, no thanks 😵‍💫

Toxic sex, YES PLEASE 😈🥵
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Leo moons to Aries moon have a magical quality to them. They are naturally drawn to each other.

As long as she’s still communicating, going on dates with you and hanging out, she’s into you.

Try getting her alone in a private space if you are wondering about intimacy. Some Sags are fast, some are slow. Scorpio Venuses like privacy and it either will happen or it won’t- but she may not be ready, so don’t take it as rejection if she doesn’t move super fast in that department.

And why ask for kisses? Just do it.
Asking is boring, once the first one has been done.
Ok yea definitely want to get that one in one alone time. She said when her son is gone is when she’d invite me over sometime. She doesn’t watch tv so getting her over to chilll and watch a movie might be boring to her. She likes to cuddle she said.

What other ways could I get her alone? She likes skating. That’s fun and creates contact just not private.
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Posted by Midnite_Riser
You have to put her to some things to really test out what kinda person she is. Like how she deals with bad situations,etc. If she wants sex quickly, that's definitely a typical Sag. You better be fun. Engage into lots of sex, take her out places where you can drain her energy. If you're going to be the typical ''lets go to this restaurant, let's go to that restaurant'' she will get bored. Go somewhere where you 2 can get physically involved, be VERY playful. Saggs love playfulness and jokes. When she gets kinda ''girly'' and giggly and laughy. (which I exhibited in both Sun in Sag women and Moon in Sag women), that's the state that you want her in because it means you have stimulated her passion. And that, will get you paid faster than you think. And during sex, make sure you engage in lots of playful banter and sexual innuendos. Sag women love that sh**. You can't be afraid to be borderline toxic.



Toxic man, no thanks 😵‍💫


Toxic sex, YES PLEASE 😈🥵
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Hahaha Ima libra.. sex department im good
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Posted by saggurl88
Leo moons to Aries moon have a magical quality to them. They are naturally drawn to each other.
As long as she’s still communicating, going on dates with you and hanging out, she’s into you.
Try getting her alone in a private space if you are wondering about intimacy. Some Sags are fast, some are slow. Scorpio Venuses like privacy and it either will happen or it won’t- but she may not be ready, so don’t take it as rejection if she doesn’t move super fast in that department.
And why ask for kisses? Just do it.
Asking is boring, once the first one has been done.


Ok yea definitely want to get that one in one alone time. She said when her son is gone is when she’d invite me over sometime. She doesn’t watch tv so getting her over to chilll and watch a movie might be boring to her. She likes to cuddle she said.

What other ways could I get her alone? She likes skating. That’s fun and creates contact just not private.
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There are other things you can do beside watch TV,

Offer to cook, or have dinner at your place (Order out together) you don't have to watch TV while eating. Talk smile

You can have her over first, before going planning to go somewhere else, for pre party drinks. Make sure whatever you have planned can possibly be postponed, just in case she wants to stay longer Winking

I've had guys tell me they wanted me to help them move, and pack up things- I actually fell for it until he told me to bring some lingerie tooLaughing -So naïve of me!

Get some board games to play, or something like cards of humanities for if she decides to come over.

Do a margarita mixer or some sort of drinks with dinner to have fun with a signature drink for the 2 of you.

Invite her to your place in the evening, so it can either lead into getting late and her staying over or when the date is done, she can choose to leave before it gets too late. Don't invite her in the middle of the afternoon, or anything like that. Do it where the sun will be setting and it will get dark while you guys are in each others company, so you can set a romantic vibe. It will feel like a natural flow on a date.

If she likes to cuddle, making out with the TV on isn't necessarily watching it Big Grin

She doesn't like watching TV at her place or it being the only thing there is to do, but background noise may be ok.

Make sure she made solid plans for the kid so she doesn't have to rush home, if things take a while to heat up. And do playful touches to see where her heads at. Most sag are fairly traditional and need for the man to make the first move before they take over.

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What are both of your Mars? Just curious 🧐
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What are both of your Mars? Just curious 🧐
Mine is Aries hers is Libra
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What are both of your Mars? Just curious 🧐



Mine is Aries hers is Libra
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Wow! You guys have a lot of great aspects going on!
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What are both of your Mars? Just curious 🧐




Mine is Aries hers is Libra



Wow! You guys have a lot of great aspects going on!
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Yea I didn’t notice at first until like the third time i actually looked at it.lol
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Posted by LuckyLibra7
Her initiating is good, however just make sure you're prepared for the pullback. Women will inevitably pullback and then men get confused. Don't freakout if she skips a morning or two.

Don't ask for a kiss. You'll talk yourself out of the booty here. If you're 7 dates in, you should be sleeping with her by this point. evaluate the logistics for sex and set the mood. Invite her over to make dinner and read her body language.

You're dating, but not exclusive. She'll let you know when she wants things to progress. Let her worry about the title and where things are going.



We’ve talked about this and me giving her a massage and suck her toes lol . Her reply was at a later date.


Why not ask for a kiss or should I just go for a kiss is what you’re saying?
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You shouldn't ask for a kiss at all, but just behave more cautiously when first meeting. You're 7 dates in, there should be an automatic kiss upon when one of you leaves and goes home.

Make a move and treat all women the same. If she tells you to back off, back off and attempt to seduce her later on. Sometimes she just needs to wallow and see what your reaction is.

Had a Gem Sun Gem Venus before who put up a wall and wanted to cuddle without sex. I let her be and didn't question it. She went home that morning and thought about it. Asked to come over later that night and she didn't hesitate to take off her clothes.

Doesn't matter if she's a 10 or a 6. Have fun with her and make moves.
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Her initiating is good, however just make sure you're prepared for the pullback. Women will inevitably pullback and then men get confused. Don't freakout if she skips a morning or two.

Don't ask for a kiss. You'll talk yourself out of the booty here. If you're 7 dates in, you should be sleeping with her by this point. evaluate the logistics for sex and set the mood. Invite her over to make dinner and read her body language.

You're dating, but not exclusive. She'll let you know when she wants things to progress. Let her worry about the title and where things are going.




We’ve talked about this and me giving her a massage and suck her toes lol . Her reply was at a later date.


Why not ask for a kiss or should I just go for a kiss is what you’re saying?



You shouldn't ask for a kiss at all, but just behave more cautiously when first meeting. You're 7 dates in, there should be an automatic kiss upon when one of you leaves and goes home.


Make a move and treat all women the same. If she tells you to back off, back off and attempt to seduce her later on. Sometimes she just needs to wallow and see what your reaction is.


Had a Gem Sun Gem Venus before who put up a wall and wanted to cuddle without sex. I let her be and didn't question it. She went home that morning and thought about it. Asked to come over later that night and she didn't hesitate to take off her clothes.


Doesn't matter if she's a 10 or a 6. Have fun with her and make moves.
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Yea the thing is when I like someone I act differently when I don’t. I’ll more of the go with the flow take it easy vs aggressive “toxic” lol
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Her initiating is good, however just make sure you're prepared for the pullback. Women will inevitably pullback and then men get confused. Don't freakout if she skips a morning or two.
Don't ask for a kiss. You'll talk yourself out of the booty here. If you're 7 dates in, you should be sleeping with her by this point. evaluate the logistics for sex and set the mood. Invite her over to make dinner and read her body language.
You're dating, but not exclusive. She'll let you know when she wants things to progress. Let her worry about the title and where things are going.


We’ve talked about this and me giving her a massage and suck her toes lol . Her reply was at a later date.

Why not ask for a kiss or should I just go for a kiss is what you’re saying?


You shouldn't ask for a kiss at all, but just behave more cautiously when first meeting. You're 7 dates in, there should be an automatic kiss upon when one of you leaves and goes home.

Make a move and treat all women the same. If she tells you to back off, back off and attempt to seduce her later on. Sometimes she just needs to wallow and see what your reaction is.

Had a Gem Sun Gem Venus before who put up a wall and wanted to cuddle without sex. I let her be and didn't question it. She went home that morning and thought about it. Asked to come over later that night and she didn't hesitate to take off her clothes.

Doesn't matter if she's a 10 or a 6. Have fun with her and make moves.
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Yea the thing is when I like someone I act differently when I don’t. I’ll more of the go with the flow take it easy vs aggressive “toxic” lol
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That's pretty normal when a guy finds a woman extremely attractive.

7 Dates in 1 month is a lot. Space it out a bit. Invite her over and offer dinner, board games etc. You need an activity so she doesn't feel like it's centered on sex.
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Not gonna lie, you sound a bit boring for a Leo moon. I expect Libras to be boring but not Leo moons. Imo, I need to see more action by you. You must have some awesome banter between you too.
Are you the guy in this puzzle? Why are you “the guy” waking up to good morning texts from a girl. Why are you “asking” for a kiss. Feel the mood and go for it.
Don’t get friendzoned


Lol what are Leo moons like? I stimulate her mind. She just initiates them more. She even said she’s the type to text a guy first. Asking for the kiss cause i wasn’t sure how she was feeling cause she’s hard to read. Usually women give more hints or are all over me by now.
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She’s doing what most sag women do when they meet a shiny red ball.

We chase, we initiate, we charge in, we adapt

Then comes the reflection “I’m doing too much”

She’ll start feeling like the man and become resentful

She has an element of Capricorn in her chart; best believe she is keeping score to some extent

You come across as a “receiver.” Waiting for things to come to you. Waiting for her to give you the okay to kiss her. Not shocking, Libra is ruled by Venus and Venusian people are more so the type to bring things to them instead of going after it.

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What are both of your Mars? Just curious 🧐


Mine is Aries hers is Libra
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I woulda said the opposite based on what you wrote.

Is your Mars aspected to Saturn?

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She has a kid.


Hmmm, she may actually like your style of boring or pursuit..

She can dictate and control so she doesn’t feel out the loop. Most dating parents need to have that control so they can plan better.

Carry on

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Not gonna lie, you sound a bit boring for a Leo moon. I expect Libras to be boring but not Leo moons. Imo, I need to see more action by you. You must have some awesome banter between you too.
Are you the guy in this puzzle? Why are you “the guy” waking up to good morning texts from a girl. Why are you “asking” for a kiss. Feel the mood and go for it.
Don’t get friendzoned


Lol what are Leo moons like? I stimulate her mind. She just initiates them more. She even said she’s the type to text a guy first. Asking for the kiss cause i wasn’t sure how she was feeling cause she’s hard to read. Usually women give more hints or are all over me by now.
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She’s doing what most sag women do when they meet a shiny red ball.

We chase, we initiate, we charge in, we adapt
Then comes the reflection “I’m doing too much”
She’ll start feeling like the man and become resentful
She has an element of Capricorn in her chart; best believe she is keeping score to some extent

You come across as a “receiver.” Waiting for things to come to you. Waiting for her to give you the okay to kiss her. Not shocking, Libra is ruled by Venus and Venusian people are more so the type to bring things to them instead of going after it.

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I’m a little bit of both. The initiator is halted cause I don’t wanna move too fast for her slow pace.
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What are both of your Mars? Just curious 🧐


Mine is Aries hers is Libra
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I woulda said the opposite based on what you wrote.

Is your Mars aspected to Saturn?

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Idk what that means lol
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She has a kid.

Hmmm, she may actually like your style of boring or pursuit..

She can dictate and control so she doesn’t feel out the loop. Most dating parents need to have that control so they can plan better.

Carry on


She’s real busy with work and other business endeavors so I kinda gotta work around her schedule.

Lol at my boring approach. I admit I’m not the most spontaneous person. I’m down for spontaneous things if asked tho
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Her initiating is good, however just make sure you're prepared for the pullback. Women will inevitably pullback and then men get confused. Don't freakout if she skips a morning or two.
Don't ask for a kiss. You'll talk yourself out of the booty here. If you're 7 dates in, you should be sleeping with her by this point. evaluate the logistics for sex and set the mood. Invite her over to make dinner and read her body language.
You're dating, but not exclusive. She'll let you know when she wants things to progress. Let her worry about the title and where things are going.


We’ve talked about this and me giving her a massage and suck her toes lol . Her reply was at a later date.
Why not ask for a kiss or should I just go for a kiss is what you’re saying?
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You shouldn't ask for a kiss at all, but just behave more cautiously when first meeting. You're 7 dates in, there should be an automatic kiss upon when one of you leaves and goes home.
Make a move and treat all women the same. If she tells you to back off, back off and attempt to seduce her later on. Sometimes she just needs to wallow and see what your reaction is.
Had a Gem Sun Gem Venus before who put up a wall and wanted to cuddle without sex. I let her be and didn't question it. She went home that morning and thought about it. Asked to come over later that night and she didn't hesitate to take off her clothes.
Doesn't matter if she's a 10 or a 6. Have fun with her and make moves.
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Yeah but that's Gemini, they change their minds like within minutes or hours. If Sag tells you no, it means no. We aren't the same. You have to do something to make her change her mind but over time. I had been with a guy cussling for hours and refusing to go further. No matter how much he insisted or tried to change my mind, no remained a no. When I felt the time was right for it, then it happened. Also, when I felt like it was right it even happened on a first date. So there are no rules. It's all avout moments and the feeling about it, but there is no contemplating or cahnging mind on it.
About the kiss part - I agree with you, that shouldn't be asked for, it's pretty much ok to go for it, specially after several dates if it feels like you're on the same page about it. Again, all about the moment, but people create that moment themselves.
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She was just hard to read leading up to the kiss. Not expressive emotionally or too affectionate. That’s how I gauge interest. Mostly got compliments and quality time. The affection part will come with time I’m seeing.
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You have to put her to some things to really test out what kinda person she is. Like how she deals with bad situations,etc. If she wants sex quickly, that's definitely a typical Sag. You better be fun. Engage into lots of sex, take her out places where you can drain her energy. If you're going to be the typical ''lets go to this restaurant, let's go to that restaurant'' she will get bored. Go somewhere where you 2 can get physically involved, be VERY playful. Saggs love playfulness and jokes. When she gets kinda ''girly'' and giggly and laughy. (which I exhibited in both Sun in Sag women and Moon in Sag women), that's the state that you want her in because it means you have stimulated her passion. And that, will get you paid faster than you think. And during sex, make sure you engage in lots of playful banter and sexual innuendos. Sag women love that sh**. You can't be afraid to be borderline toxic.


She’s slow walking things. Said she not the type to rush into things. We’ve been on fun dates. All the dates have been fun new experiences for her. She likes the mental stimulation we have going on
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I’m 34 she 39
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Not gonna lie, you sound a bit boring for a Leo moon. I expect Libras to be boring but not Leo moons. Imo, I need to see more action by you. You must have some awesome banter between you too.
Are you the guy in this puzzle? Why are you “the guy” waking up to good morning texts from a girl. Why are you “asking” for a kiss. Feel the mood and go for it.
Don’t get friendzoned


"Acts such as people touching, fondling, or kissing you without your permission are sexual assaults."

Feel the mood haha. No wonder so many guys get in trouble
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It’s only sexual assault when the guy is ugly
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Not gonna lie, you sound a bit boring for a Leo moon. I expect Libras to be boring but not Leo moons. Imo, I need to see more action by you. You must have some awesome banter between you too.
Are you the guy in this puzzle? Why are you “the guy” waking up to good morning texts from a girl. Why are you “asking” for a kiss. Feel the mood and go for it.
Don’t get friendzoned


"Acts such as people touching, fondling, or kissing you without your permission are sexual assaults."
Feel the mood haha. No wonder so many guys get in trouble
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It’s only sexual assault when the guy is ugly
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Hahaha that’s true

What to do when the inconsistency and pull away start? I do let her pull away and come back on her own?

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Not gonna lie, you sound a bit boring for a Leo moon. I expect Libras to be boring but not Leo moons. Imo, I need to see more action by you. You must have some awesome banter between you too.
Are you the guy in this puzzle? Why are you “the guy” waking up to good morning texts from a girl. Why are you “asking” for a kiss. Feel the mood and go for it.
Don’t get friendzoned



"Acts such as people touching, fondling, or kissing you without your permission are sexual assaults."
Feel the mood haha. No wonder so many guys get in trouble
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It’s only sexual assault when the guy is ugly
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Hahaha that’s true

What to do when the inconsistency and pull away start? I do let her pull away and come back on her own?


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I believe it’s important to get ahead of it and don’t wait to cross the bridge.

If you’re FOMO, she’ll be back

Also allow her to be in her feminine role more so than the masculine. Picking her up for dates would be a nice touch.
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Not gonna lie, you sound a bit boring for a Leo moon. I expect Libras to be boring but not Leo moons. Imo, I need to see more action by you. You must have some awesome banter between you too.
Are you the guy in this puzzle? Why are you “the guy” waking up to good morning texts from a girl. Why are you “asking” for a kiss. Feel the mood and go for it.
Don’t get friendzoned



"Acts such as people touching, fondling, or kissing you without your permission are sexual assaults."
Feel the mood haha. No wonder so many guys get in trouble
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It’s only sexual assault when the guy is ugly
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Hahaha that’s true

What to do when the inconsistency and pull away start? I do let her pull away and come back on her own?





I believe it’s important to get ahead of it and don’t wait to cross the bridge.


If you’re FOMO, she’ll be back


Also allow her to be in her feminine role more so than the masculine. Picking her up for dates would be a nice touch.
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Her text responses are getting less elaborate lately and just answering them instead of the open answer responses. Communication wise she dictates it because her schedule and when I do initiate a call she half the time doesn’t answer or will have to call me back. Sometimes doesn’t call me back. Kinda inconsistent. Take that as her wanting her freedom and not being tied down. Like called her last night. Didn’t answer me but was posting on social media

I let her know I like to communicate, doesn’t have to be all day but something during day and to hear from you at night. She said since she’s not committed to anyone she doesn’t think do check but will work on it. Was cool about and didn’t press her out.

I do pick her up for dates and i let her know I’ll come pick her up ahead of time.
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Her initiating is good, however just make sure you're prepared for the pullback. Women will inevitably pullback and then men get confused. Don't freakout if she skips a morning or two.
Don't ask for a kiss. You'll talk yourself out of the booty here. If you're 7 dates in, you should be sleeping with her by this point. evaluate the logistics for sex and set the mood. Invite her over to make dinner and read her body language.
You're dating, but not exclusive. She'll let you know when she wants things to progress. Let her worry about the title and where things are going.


We’ve talked about this and me giving her a massage and suck her toes lol . Her reply was at a later date.
Why not ask for a kiss or should I just go for a kiss is what you’re saying?
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You shouldn't ask for a kiss at all, but just behave more cautiously when first meeting. You're 7 dates in, there should be an automatic kiss upon when one of you leaves and goes home.
Make a move and treat all women the same. If she tells you to back off, back off and attempt to seduce her later on. Sometimes she just needs to wallow and see what your reaction is.
Had a Gem Sun Gem Venus before who put up a wall and wanted to cuddle without sex. I let her be and didn't question it. She went home that morning and thought about it. Asked to come over later that night and she didn't hesitate to take off her clothes.
Doesn't matter if she's a 10 or a 6. Have fun with her and make moves.


Yeah but that's Gemini, they change their minds like within minutes or hours. If Sag tells you no, it means no. We aren't the same. You have to do something to make her change her mind but over time. I had been with a guy cussling for hours and refusing to go further. No matter how much he insisted or tried to change my mind, no remained a no. When I felt the time was right for it, then it happened. Also, when I felt like it was right it even happened on a first date. So there are no rules. It's all avout moments and the feeling about it, but there is no contemplating or cahnging mind on it.

About the kiss part - I agree with you, that shouldn't be asked for, it's pretty much ok to go for it, specially after several dates if it feels like you're on the same page about it. Again, all about the moment, but people create that moment themselves.


"Acts such as people touching, fondling, or kissing you without your permission are sexual assaults."

Ha this is where it gets so tricky these days. Like you have to "feel the moment" and if you're right it's great and if you're wrong it's sexual assault..

"Is it ok for me to touch your hand?" "Is it ok for me to lean in?" "Is it ok for me to place my hand on the back of your neck?" "Is it ok for me to kiss you?"
lol this is correct romance
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That's boring. I want a man who pulls me close and kisses me passionately when moment feels right. And pretty sure everyone has that much sense to feel what the other side feels about them. It's not 1600s or whatever, to ask for permissions. Highly doubt there is any Sag who values being asked about it over spontaniety
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Only asked cause cause she’s hard to read. The slow walk of things not tryna do too much. Her responses to certain questions I ask left me l confused.

Now when I kissed I did one of those grabbed her chin and kissed her. Made sure I put some passion behind it
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Her initiating is good, however just make sure you're prepared for the pullback. Women will inevitably pullback and then men get confused. Don't freakout if she skips a morning or two.
Don't ask for a kiss. You'll talk yourself out of the booty here. If you're 7 dates in, you should be sleeping with her by this point. evaluate the logistics for sex and set the mood. Invite her over to make dinner and read her body language.
You're dating, but not exclusive. She'll let you know when she wants things to progress. Let her worry about the title and where things are going.


We’ve talked about this and me giving her a massage and suck her toes lol . Her reply was at a later date.
Why not ask for a kiss or should I just go for a kiss is what you’re saying?
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You shouldn't ask for a kiss at all, but just behave more cautiously when first meeting. You're 7 dates in, there should be an automatic kiss upon when one of you leaves and goes home.
Make a move and treat all women the same. If she tells you to back off, back off and attempt to seduce her later on. Sometimes she just needs to wallow and see what your reaction is.
Had a Gem Sun Gem Venus before who put up a wall and wanted to cuddle without sex. I let her be and didn't question it. She went home that morning and thought about it. Asked to come over later that night and she didn't hesitate to take off her clothes.
Doesn't matter if she's a 10 or a 6. Have fun with her and make moves.


Yeah but that's Gemini, they change their minds like within minutes or hours. If Sag tells you no, it means no. We aren't the same. You have to do something to make her change her mind but over time. I had been with a guy cussling for hours and refusing to go further. No matter how much he insisted or tried to change my mind, no remained a no. When I felt the time was right for it, then it happened. Also, when I felt like it was right it even happened on a first date. So there are no rules. It's all avout moments and the feeling about it, but there is no contemplating or cahnging mind on it.

About the kiss part - I agree with you, that shouldn't be asked for, it's pretty much ok to go for it, specially after several dates if it feels like you're on the same page about it. Again, all about the moment, but people create that moment themselves.


"Acts such as people touching, fondling, or kissing you without your permission are sexual assaults."

Ha this is where it gets so tricky these days. Like you have to "feel the moment" and if you're right it's great and if you're wrong it's sexual assault..

"Is it ok for me to touch your hand?" "Is it ok for me to lean in?" "Is it ok for me to place my hand on the back of your neck?" "Is it ok for me to kiss you?"
lol this is correct romance
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That's boring. I want a man who pulls me close and kisses me passionately when moment feels right. And pretty sure everyone has that much sense to feel what the other side feels about them. It's not 1600s or whatever, to ask for permissions. Highly doubt there is any Sag who values being asked about it over spontaniety




Only asked cause cause she’s hard to read. The slow walk of things not tryna do too much. Her responses to certain questions I ask left me l confused.


Now when I kissed I did one of those grabbed her chin and kissed her. Made sure I put some passion behind it



What left you confused? Maybe we can shed some light on it
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Like I asked what she thought so far about us hangout. “Im enjoying the experience”. Kinda left me wondering because no one ever replied to that question like that. Other then that one says we align and the energy is good (she’s very spiritual)

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What are both of your Mars? Just curious 🧐


Mine is Aries hers is Libra
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I woulda said the opposite based on what you wrote.

Is your Mars aspected to Saturn?

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His Aries mars to her Aries moon and her Libra mars to his Libra rising?

I missed the Saturn aspect. That is long term potential, correct?
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Her initiating is good, however just make sure you're prepared for the pullback. Women will inevitably pullback and then men get confused. Don't freakout if she skips a morning or two.
Don't ask for a kiss. You'll talk yourself out of the booty here. If you're 7 dates in, you should be sleeping with her by this point. evaluate the logistics for sex and set the mood. Invite her over to make dinner and read her body language.
You're dating, but not exclusive. She'll let you know when she wants things to progress. Let her worry about the title and where things are going.


We’ve talked about this and me giving her a massage and suck her toes lol . Her reply was at a later date.

Why not ask for a kiss or should I just go for a kiss is what you’re saying?
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You shouldn't ask for a kiss at all, but just behave more cautiously when first meeting. You're 7 dates in, there should be an automatic kiss upon when one of you leaves and goes home.

Make a move and treat all women the same. If she tells you to back off, back off and attempt to seduce her later on. Sometimes she just needs to wallow and see what your reaction is.

Had a Gem Sun Gem Venus before who put up a wall and wanted to cuddle without sex. I let her be and didn't question it. She went home that morning and thought about it. Asked to come over later that night and she didn't hesitate to take off her clothes.

Doesn't matter if she's a 10 or a 6. Have fun with her and make moves.




Yeah but that's Gemini, they change their minds like within minutes or hours. If Sag tells you no, it means no. We aren't the same. You have to do something to make her change her mind but over time. I had been with a guy cussling for hours and refusing to go further. No matter how much he insisted or tried to change my mind, no remained a no. When I felt the time was right for it, then it happened. Also, when I felt like it was right it even happened on a first date. So there are no rules. It's all avout moments and the feeling about it, but there is no contemplating or cahnging mind on it.


About the kiss part - I agree with you, that shouldn't be asked for, it's pretty much ok to go for it, specially after several dates if it feels like you're on the same page about it. Again, all about the moment, but people create that moment themselves.



"Acts such as people touching, fondling, or kissing you without your permission are sexual assaults."


Ha this is where it gets so tricky these days. Like you have to "feel the moment" and if you're right it's great and if you're wrong it's sexual assault..


"Is it ok for me to touch your hand?" "Is it ok for me to lean in?" "Is it ok for me to place my hand on the back of your neck?" "Is it ok for me to kiss you?"

lol this is correct romance
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This sounds like something a woman would say to a man that she isn't interested in.

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What are both of your Mars? Just curious 🧐



Mine is Aries hers is Libra
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I woulda said the opposite based on what you wrote.
Is your Mars aspected to Saturn?
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His Aries mars to her Aries moon and her Libra mars to his Libra rising?

I missed the Saturn aspect. That is long term potential, correct?
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My Saturn is sag hers is Scorpio

I’ve read it’s has making of long term marriage union
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Her initiating is good, however just make sure you're prepared for the pullback. Women will inevitably pullback and then men get confused. Don't freakout if she skips a morning or two.
Don't ask for a kiss. You'll talk yourself out of the booty here. If you're 7 dates in, you should be sleeping with her by this point. evaluate the logistics for sex and set the mood. Invite her over to make dinner and read her body language.
You're dating, but not exclusive. She'll let you know when she wants things to progress. Let her worry about the title and where things are going.



We’ve talked about this and me giving her a massage and suck her toes lol . Her reply was at a later date.
Why not ask for a kiss or should I just go for a kiss is what you’re saying?
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You shouldn't ask for a kiss at all, but just behave more cautiously when first meeting. You're 7 dates in, there should be an automatic kiss upon when one of you leaves and goes home.
Make a move and treat all women the same. If she tells you to back off, back off and attempt to seduce her later on. Sometimes she just needs to wallow and see what your reaction is.
Had a Gem Sun Gem Venus before who put up a wall and wanted to cuddle without sex. I let her be and didn't question it. She went home that morning and thought about it. Asked to come over later that night and she didn't hesitate to take off her clothes.
Doesn't matter if she's a 10 or a 6. Have fun with her and make moves.


Yeah but that's Gemini, they change their minds like within minutes or hours. If Sag tells you no, it means no. We aren't the same. You have to do something to make her change her mind but over time. I had been with a guy cussling for hours and refusing to go further. No matter how much he insisted or tried to change my mind, no remained a no. When I felt the time was right for it, then it happened. Also, when I felt like it was right it even happened on a first date. So there are no rules. It's all avout moments and the feeling about it, but there is no contemplating or cahnging mind on it.
About the kiss part - I agree with you, that shouldn't be asked for, it's pretty much ok to go for it, specially after several dates if it feels like you're on the same page about it. Again, all about the moment, but people create that moment themselves.


"Acts such as people touching, fondling, or kissing you without your permission are sexual assaults."
Ha this is where it gets so tricky these days. Like you have to "feel the moment" and if you're right it's great and if you're wrong it's sexual assault..
"Is it ok for me to touch your hand?" "Is it ok for me to lean in?" "Is it ok for me to place my hand on the back of your neck?" "Is it ok for me to kiss you?"
lol this is correct romance
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That's boring. I want a man who pulls me close and kisses me passionately when moment feels right. And pretty sure everyone has that much sense to feel what the other side feels about them. It's not 1600s or whatever, to ask for permissions. Highly doubt there is any Sag who values being asked about it over spontaniety


Only asked cause cause she’s hard to read. The slow walk of things not tryna do too much. Her responses to certain questions I ask left me l confused.

Now when I kissed I did one of those grabbed her chin and kissed her. Made sure I put some passion behind it


What left you confused? Maybe we can shed some light on it


Like I asked what she thought so far about us hangout. “Im enjoying the experience”. Kinda left me wondering because no one ever replied to that question like that. Other then that one says we align and the energy is good (she’s very spiritual)
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Diplomatic answer, not to reveal too much but just enough to say she likes hanging out with you would be my interpretation of it
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Yea i get it, don’t wanna show cards too soon to stay guarded.
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Not gonna lie, you sound a bit boring for a Leo moon. I expect Libras to be boring but not Leo moons. Imo, I need to see more action by you. You must have some awesome banter between you too.
Are you the guy in this puzzle? Why are you “the guy” waking up to good morning texts from a girl. Why are you “asking” for a kiss. Feel the mood and go for it.
Don’t get friendzoned



"Acts such as people touching, fondling, or kissing you without your permission are sexual assaults."
Feel the mood haha. No wonder so many guys get in trouble
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It’s only sexual assault when the guy is ugly
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Hahaha that’s true

What to do when the inconsistency and pull away start? I do let her pull away and come back on her own?






I believe it’s important to get ahead of it and don’t wait to cross the bridge.


If you’re FOMO, she’ll be back


Also allow her to be in her feminine role more so than the masculine. Picking her up for dates would be a nice touch.



Her text responses are getting less elaborate lately and just answering them instead of the open answer responses. Communication wise she dictates it because her schedule and when I do initiate a call she half the time doesn’t answer or will have to call me back. Sometimes doesn’t call me back. Kinda inconsistent. Take that as her wanting her freedom and not being tied down. Like called her last night. Didn’t answer me but was posting on social media


I let her know I like to communicate, doesn’t have to be all day but something during day and to hear from you at night. She said since she’s not committed to anyone she doesn’t think do check but will work on it. Was cool about and didn’t press her out.


I do pick her up for dates and i let her know I’ll come pick her up ahead of time.
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I think you both should be initiating. Don't leave it up to just her because she is trying to fit you into her schedule. Both sides need to show interest when it comes to texts.

As far as her being on social media and not contacting you- Social media sometimes can be a wind down moment, where you can take a minute to yourself and see what's going on in the world without interacting with another human.

I have noticed the guys who contact me as soon as I hop on social media because they can see that I'm on- It's annoying and feels like stalking if it happens over and over again. It feels like I can't escape them, whether I like them or not. I don't like being spied on.

Some people communicate better in person then over the phone. Everyone communicates differently, so you should find out what she is more comfortable with, instead of hyper focusing on what she's not doing or what has changed.

Usually people do extra things to establish a connection at first, and start slacking to what they regularly do when they are comfortable.

If she starts giving you excuses when you ask her out, that will be a sign that things aren't good. Texting or short responses is fairly normal, when there is more to talk about in person.

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Not gonna lie, you sound a bit boring for a Leo moon. I expect Libras to be boring but not Leo moons. Imo, I need to see more action by you. You must have some awesome banter between you too.
Are you the guy in this puzzle? Why are you “the guy” waking up to good morning texts from a girl. Why are you “asking” for a kiss. Feel the mood and go for it.
Don’t get friendzoned



"Acts such as people touching, fondling, or kissing you without your permission are sexual assaults."
Feel the mood haha. No wonder so many guys get in trouble
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It’s only sexual assault when the guy is ugly
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Hahaha that’s true
What to do when the inconsistency and pull away start? I do let her pull away and come back on her own?



I believe it’s important to get ahead of it and don’t wait to cross the bridge.

If you’re FOMO, she’ll be back

Also allow her to be in her feminine role more so than the masculine. Picking her up for dates would be a nice touch.


Her text responses are getting less elaborate lately and just answering them instead of the open answer responses. Communication wise she dictates it because her schedule and when I do initiate a call she half the time doesn’t answer or will have to call me back. Sometimes doesn’t call me back. Kinda inconsistent. Take that as her wanting her freedom and not being tied down. Like called her last night. Didn’t answer me but was posting on social media

I let her know I like to communicate, doesn’t have to be all day but something during day and to hear from you at night. She said since she’s not committed to anyone she doesn’t think do check but will work on it. Was cool about and didn’t press her out.

I do pick her up for dates and i let her know I’ll come pick her up ahead of time.
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I think you both should be initiating. Don't leave it up to just her because she is trying to fit you into her schedule. Both sides need to show interest when it comes to texts.

As far as her being on social media and not contacting you- Social media sometimes can be a wind down moment, where you can take a minute to yourself and see what's going on in the world without interacting with another human.

I have noticed the guys who contact me as soon as I hop on social media because they can see that I'm on- It's annoying and feels like stalking if it happens over and over again. It feels like I can't escape them, whether I like them or not. I don't like being spied on.

Some people communicate better in person then over the phone. Everyone communicates differently, so you should find out what she is more comfortable with, instead of hyper focusing on what she's not doing or what has changed.

Usually people do extra things to establish a connection at first, and start slacking to what they regularly do when they are comfortable.

If she starts giving you excuses when you ask her out, that will be a sign that things aren't good. Texting or short responses is fairly normal, when there is more to talk about in person.

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Called her when I got off. Work. She’s doing something with son so gotta call me back. Gonna say later on tonight probably she’ll call.

When I called other day was like 6/7pm she was on social media all night (seen comments in group we in cause we’re friends) didn’t wanna talk cool could have texted and go back to me vs ignore. THAT says not interested to me.. I’m prideful so chasing is hard for me. Was told if you want something go get it. On flip side if you gotta chase something it’s running away from you. I get folks want time to self cause I like my own space too.

I can see her doing extra to establish something because she’d call in between her clients and I’d be off work to answer phone. Then call me later on when she’s finished her last client and settled down. Part of the slow walk is to slow walk things vs me I like consistency, don’t need to rush things tho.

Hasn’t made excuses about going out but that one seems to be the tell all sign if it ever happens without a reschedule.

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Not gonna lie, you sound a bit boring for a Leo moon. I expect Libras to be boring but not Leo moons. Imo, I need to see more action by you. You must have some awesome banter between you too.
Are you the guy in this puzzle? Why are you “the guy” waking up to good morning texts from a girl. Why are you “asking” for a kiss. Feel the mood and go for it.
Don’t get friendzoned



"Acts such as people touching, fondling, or kissing you without your permission are sexual assaults."
Feel the mood haha. No wonder so many guys get in trouble
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It’s only sexual assault when the guy is ugly
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Hahaha that’s true
What to do when the inconsistency and pull away start? I do let her pull away and come back on her own?



I believe it’s important to get ahead of it and don’t wait to cross the bridge.

If you’re FOMO, she’ll be back

Also allow her to be in her feminine role more so than the masculine. Picking her up for dates would be a nice touch.


Her text responses are getting less elaborate lately and just answering them instead of the open answer responses. Communication wise she dictates it because her schedule and when I do initiate a call she half the time doesn’t answer or will have to call me back. Sometimes doesn’t call me back. Kinda inconsistent. Take that as her wanting her freedom and not being tied down. Like called her last night. Didn’t answer me but was posting on social media

I let her know I like to communicate, doesn’t have to be all day but something during day and to hear from you at night. She said since she’s not committed to anyone she doesn’t think do check but will work on it. Was cool about and didn’t press her out.

I do pick her up for dates and i let her know I’ll come pick her up ahead of time.
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I think you both should be initiating. Don't leave it up to just her because she is trying to fit you into her schedule. Both sides need to show interest when it comes to texts.

As far as her being on social media and not contacting you- Social media sometimes can be a wind down moment, where you can take a minute to yourself and see what's going on in the world without interacting with another human.

I have noticed the guys who contact me as soon as I hop on social media because they can see that I'm on- It's annoying and feels like stalking if it happens over and over again. It feels like I can't escape them, whether I like them or not. I don't like being spied on.

Some people communicate better in person then over the phone. Everyone communicates differently, so you should find out what she is more comfortable with, instead of hyper focusing on what she's not doing or what has changed.

Usually people do extra things to establish a connection at first, and start slacking to what they regularly do when they are comfortable.

If she starts giving you excuses when you ask her out, that will be a sign that things aren't good. Texting or short responses is fairly normal, when there is more to talk about in person.




Called her when I got off. Work. She’s doing something with son so gotta call me back. Gonna say later on tonight probably she’ll call.


When I called other day was like 6/7pm she was on social media all night (seen comments in group we in cause we’re friends) didn’t wanna talk cool could have texted and go back to me vs ignore. THAT says not interested to me.. I’m prideful so chasing is hard for me. Was told if you want something go get it. On flip side if you gotta chase something it’s running away from you. I get folks want time to self cause I like my own space too.


I can see her doing extra to establish something because she’d call in between her clients and I’d be off work to answer phone. Then call me later on when she’s finished her last client and settled down. Part of the slow walk is to slow walk things vs me I like consistency, don’t need to rush things tho.


Hasn’t made excuses about going out but that one seems to be the tell all sign if it ever happens without a reschedule.

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Basically fitting you in between a client is doable.

Her being at home and trying to fit you in with her kid there is hard. Who is she gonna tell her kid she is on the phone with if they ask? It puts her on the spot and she can't just walk away from the kid and talk to you.

I noticed Leo moon like to establish a sexual bond almost immediately or they will start thinking they are being rejected. I don't get why it is such a significant part of bonding for you (Leo moon). Especially cause it's rushed.
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Posted by DMV
Not gonna lie, you sound a bit boring for a Leo moon. I expect Libras to be boring but not Leo moons. Imo, I need to see more action by you. You must have some awesome banter between you too.
Are you the guy in this puzzle? Why are you “the guy” waking up to good morning texts from a girl. Why are you “asking” for a kiss. Feel the mood and go for it.
Don’t get friendzoned



"Acts such as people touching, fondling, or kissing you without your permission are sexual assaults."
Feel the mood haha. No wonder so many guys get in trouble
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It’s only sexual assault when the guy is ugly
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Hahaha that’s true
What to do when the inconsistency and pull away start? I do let her pull away and come back on her own?



I believe it’s important to get ahead of it and don’t wait to cross the bridge.

If you’re FOMO, she’ll be back

Also allow her to be in her feminine role more so than the masculine. Picking her up for dates would be a nice touch.


Her text responses are getting less elaborate lately and just answering them instead of the open answer responses. Communication wise she dictates it because her schedule and when I do initiate a call she half the time doesn’t answer or will have to call me back. Sometimes doesn’t call me back. Kinda inconsistent. Take that as her wanting her freedom and not being tied down. Like called her last night. Didn’t answer me but was posting on social media
I let her know I like to communicate, doesn’t have to be all day but something during day and to hear from you at night. She said since she’s not committed to anyone she doesn’t think do check but will work on it. Was cool about and didn’t press her out.
I do pick her up for dates and i let her know I’ll come pick her up ahead of time.
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I think you both should be initiating. Don't leave it up to just her because she is trying to fit you into her schedule. Both sides need to show interest when it comes to texts.
As far as her being on social media and not contacting you- Social media sometimes can be a wind down moment, where you can take a minute to yourself and see what's going on in the world without interacting with another human.
I have noticed the guys who contact me as soon as I hop on social media because they can see that I'm on- It's annoying and feels like stalking if it happens over and over again. It feels like I can't escape them, whether I like them or not. I don't like being spied on.
Some people communicate better in person then over the phone. Everyone communicates differently, so you should find out what she is more comfortable with, instead of hyper focusing on what she's not doing or what has changed.
Usually people do extra things to establish a connection at first, and start slacking to what they regularly do when they are comfortable.
If she starts giving you excuses when you ask her out, that will be a sign that things aren't good. Texting or short responses is fairly normal, when there is more to talk about in person.


Called her when I got off. Work. She’s doing something with son so gotta call me back. Gonna say later on tonight probably she’ll call.

When I called other day was like 6/7pm she was on social media all night (seen comments in group we in cause we’re friends) didn’t wanna talk cool could have texted and go back to me vs ignore. THAT says not interested to me.. I’m prideful so chasing is hard for me. Was told if you want something go get it. On flip side if you gotta chase something it’s running away from you. I get folks want time to self cause I like my own space too.

I can see her doing extra to establish something because she’d call in between her clients and I’d be off work to answer phone. Then call me later on when she’s finished her last client and settled down. Part of the slow walk is to slow walk things vs me I like consistency, don’t need to rush things tho.

Hasn’t made excuses about going out but that one seems to be the tell all sign if it ever happens without a reschedule.
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I just wrote a ton and it didn't post.

Basically fitting you in between a client is doable.

Her being at home and trying to fit you in with her kid there is hard. Who is she gonna tell her kid she is on the phone with if they ask? It puts her on the spot and she can't just walk away from the kid and talk to you.

I noticed Leo moon like to establish a sexual bond almost immediately or they will start thinking they are being rejected. I don't get why it is such a significant part of bonding for you (Leo moon). Especially cause it's rushed.
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I’ve met her son. Our second outing was to a carnival with her son her friend and her 2 daughters. I’ve been on phone with her son around also.

I’m unaware how the placements act because I’m not all the way knowledgeable yet on them. I wouldn’t say rejected.. it’s makes me unsure. I am a sexual person tho
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