Living a Life That doesn't fit the stereotype
I'm a scorpio woman absolutely frustrated that I feel men solely look at me as a sex object rather than a person with fe...
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Posted by starlover
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Posted by starlover
I have tried posting pics from my photobucket account....which code do you have to use?
Use the code that starts with
Posted by Katness
Yes, I designed the cards as well. The first deck I drew, in 2004, was modeled after the Rider-Waite deck. The second one that I crafted, I designed and was crafted from 2010-2012.
It is card stock, after the drawing were penciled, inked, and colored, they were glued to a heavier colored backing and then laminated.
The first deck I used heavier paper, and the deck when piled stood 4 1/2"...too thick. So the second deck I used thinner paper.
I recommend setting aside the same amount of time per week if you want to take on a similar project. Give yourself a goal of sketching 4 cards per sitting. You'll make headway if you keep yourself to a time limit and work at it regularly.
I already foresee me drawing a third deck.
Wow, that's definitely a thick deck! So, the trick would be to find the right kind of paper and cardstock that when stacked makes a nice sized deck and isn't flimsy, but not too big.
I'm still floating ideas in my head on designs, and it probably won't be traditional looking. The deck I gravitated to was the Zen deck. I don't think mine will like the zen deck, but it will definitely be different.
The first deck I drew I modeled after the traditional Rider-Waite deck because it is more in sync with the original symbolism of the Tarot. Every detail has meaning. I made it as part of an apprenticeship, and it was quite important to use the same symbolism in order to learn the meanings of the cards.
As a kid I was always attracted to the Tarot but was discouraged from embracing it as the book meanings seemed to cancel each other out.
Later, in my twenties I picked it up again...when I began the apprenticeship. I favored learning the system itself over just memorizing the meanings in a book. It became a rich study that opened up self-study in a new way.
When I began the second deck I picked four decks that I was attracted to and used them for inspiration while integrating my own life experiences into the pictures. The cards seemed to draw themselves.
As a kid I was always attracted to the Tarot but was discouraged from embracing it as the book meanings seemed to cancel each other out.
Later, in my twenties I picked it up again...when I began the apprenticeship. I favored learning the system itself over just memorizing the meanings in a book. It became a rich study that opened up self-study in a new way.
When I began the second deck I picked four decks that I was attracted to and used them for inspiration while integrating my own life experiences into the pictures. The cards seemed to draw themselves.
If there is an art supply store near you, you can check out the various stocks of paper before you buy it. Choose a size and use a paper cuter to measure and pre-cut all of your cards, and your backing. It is more efficient to just use spray adhesive to combine the paper and backing before you cut it into the dimensions you want. I suggest cutting a few extra just in case you need them.
Posted by MoonArtistPosted by starlover
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Posted by Katness
They aren't "problems"...they are "challenges."
I see men as being capable of much more than they realize. I just try to remember that everyone is in a state of becoming.
Some people on this thread have said some valuable and useful things, while others have done nothing but poke and peck, at least they are amusing themselves....is it useful? Perhaps for their egos...but not to me or my situation.
P.S. StarMooney, I couldn't care less what you think of my work, or my "Work," your opinion has no value to me.
My work is my "Work," I persist in my efforts for my own sake and for my anscestors, not for the pat on the head from others. I know where I came from, what I have overcome...I have that perspective, while you do not.
I know I'm talented, creative, and am still becoming even more so aside from what people like to presume about me from their own misconceived notions.
We are either evolving toward becoming conscious beings, or lulling ourselves to sleep with our own stories...that we are so sure in ourselves.
Katness, this was exactly what I meant when I mentioned you need greater self awareness. You obviously care enough to start a ridiculous rant about what I think of your work or your "work" (whatever you meant by that). First of all, I gave you a sincere compliment re your work/art/costumes/whatever you posted. Do you see how defensive YOU are? You could've gave a simple thank you or just have said nothing at all. Instead, you seriously digress and speak about your work and ancestors etc, when there was no need for all of that. YOU are the one being defensive and venomous, not me. Secondly, you didn't address the bulk of what I was talking about, which shed light towards why you have problems (oh, wait, excuse me, "challenges") to begin with. And then you go on to talk about how talented and creative you are blah blah blah blah. No one said anything about your level of talent or creativeness. sounds like you're trying to convince yourself that you're those things (just how you probably behave inappropriately with men to convince yourself you're so pretty or so highly sexual). And that's my last and final comment on this thread because you don't seem to have the capacity to understand what myself and others are trying to impart to you. Best of luck.
Posted by KatnessPosted by MoonArtistPosted by starlover
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StarMooney...
It is much simpler to just ask what I meant by what I said if you don't understand, rather than presume that you do. When I referred to the "Work," I am referring the The Fourth Way. Have you heard of a man named G.I. Gurdjieff? I participate in both group "Work"and individual study. To try to simplify it into a single sentence would be a stretch.... but plainly, it is an access route to self-observation.
Language and communication can be tricky particularly because people have their own associations and mechanical way of getting identified and swept into things...it creates a state of sleep.
Maybe you should look him up, it could be useful for developing understanding.
Knowledge is only part of the equation.
It is much simpler to just ask what I meant by what I said if you don't understand, rather than presume that you do. When I referred to the "Work," I am referring the The Fourth Way. Have you heard of a man named G.I. Gurdjieff? I participate in both group "Work"and individual study. To try to simplify it into a single sentence would be a stretch.... but plainly, it is an access route to self-observation.
Language and communication can be tricky particularly because people have their own associations and mechanical way of getting identified and swept into things...it creates a state of sleep.
Maybe you should look him up, it could be useful for developing understanding.
Knowledge is only part of the equation.
Posted by Whatu
"I see men as being capable of much more than they realize. I just try to remember that everyone is in a state of becoming."
I think we have found the problem, princess.
Now lets get to the root of it. You are clearly a very successful woman. What kind of men do you date? Do you feel like you might emasculate the men you date?
What is the word 'capable' referring to, and what do you suppose you could do to bring them the confidence to reach that potential. To be a muse to them of sorts.
By capable...I am inferring that they have an ability and capacity to be conscious beings who can read a situation and respond in an appropriate manner. That is their own "work" though, hence...they (like everyone else on this planet...male and female) are in a state of becoming.
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Posted by Whatu
This thread has gone on long enough. First of all lets talk about BIOLOGY. You know that thing that makes everything living what it is. There are 6 billion people on earth. All of them came to like because a man looked at a woman and thought she was sexy. That's how we pick a partner. Plain and simple, after that allot more detail goes into it but that is the first stage. Maybe men don't get to see what it is that makes you something more than this because you keep it from them. You wait for them to give you the nod of approval that they want it from you rather than just giving them all of yourself. so they only see whats on the outside and they have no need to see anymore than that because it satisfies them.
And another important point that I am making about biology, I'm a man and I like beautiful woman. I see beautiful woman from a perspective that only men can see it from, woman cant see it how we see it but they make up nonsense in their own heads. When woman complain about being "objectified" by men that's because they only see it from a visual perspective. When men look at woman they don't just see that sexy figure. We sense your confidence, your vitality, your happiness and love beaming from you. MEN SEE WHAT IS GOING TO RAISE OUR CHILDREN. The problem is woman somehow think that we look at you like peaces of meat, Which says allot about your confidence. If you feel like a peace of meat then you will get treated like one. But in reality I don't think any men actually look at woman like meat. We see a woman's entire aura and that's what makes her sexy. we hear her laughter and it practically drives us insane because it sounds so good.
Most men really Strugle to put this into words, or even fathom what we are feeling past the basic instinct. Our language gives us about 20 words max to express the most incredible things on earth. Not every guy is a great poet.
I honestly think the real problem lays in your self confidence and perception of what men think. and your probably really hot.
I appreciated a lot of what you said in this post, in particular, how you stated it.
It seems there are two subjects being crossed here, one...a reference to a scenario with someone I am dating, and the other, toward strangers who approach me when I'm not seeking out interaction but am in my own space. ..Like the random dude that will come up be
...scenario with someone I am dating, and the other, toward strangers who approach me when I'm not seeking out interaction but am in my own space. ..Like the random dude that will come up behind me while my eyes are closed and I am in the midst of a meditative and prayerful dance space, and attempt to interject themselves into my experience, and I tell them I'm there to dance for me, and not to hook up. If they approached me face to face and had something of heart and mind to say, I'd likely respond differently instead of defensively. I have met a good number of my guy friends while I was on the dancefloor, but more often than not they approach me as a bonehead.
I just avoid that now by avoiding clubs, and dancing in my kitchen instead or in a Nia class.
I miss dancing in the public, mainly because while some may see me as a sex object, others see that I am doing my shamanic work. The boneheads may be attracted to something aside from my exterior, but as you said, there may be a limited vocabulary playing part. I'll try not to be so defensive, yet at the same time
I just avoid that now by avoiding clubs, and dancing in my kitchen instead or in a Nia class.
I miss dancing in the public, mainly because while some may see me as a sex object, others see that I am doing my shamanic work. The boneheads may be attracted to something aside from my exterior, but as you said, there may be a limited vocabulary playing part. I'll try not to be so defensive, yet at the same time
As I was saying... I'll try not to be so defensive, yet at the same time I see that defending myself against ridiculous remarks, is a response and attempt to clarify a skewed view from people who do not know me.
I go into a trance while dancing, it doesn't matter where I am. I tend to stay away from clubs now though. I used to just dress strange so the creepers would leave me alone.
Sometimes strangers would post up to protect my space, even chicks can be boneheads wanting to hump my leg to get some attention. I wouldn't allow for that either. But on several occassions both men and women would ask me if it was okay to model what I was doing.. so they could feel where I was. It is the primary reason I decided to make effort at becoming a dance teacher...to help people access where I go.
Sometimes strangers would post up to protect my space, even chicks can be boneheads wanting to hump my leg to get some attention. I wouldn't allow for that either. But on several occassions both men and women would ask me if it was okay to model what I was doing.. so they could feel where I was. It is the primary reason I decided to make effort at becoming a dance teacher...to help people access where I go.
The stories we have...I tell ya.
I realize my reaction to anything in general is dependant on "where I'm at" emotionally and mentally, and how I'm being approached. If I haven't eaten for example, and have been rushed through my day, it seems to put me on edge. When I am in a balanced space things don't irritate me as much and comments can blow by without effecting my disposition, and are often even amusing. We are magnetic beings, attracting all sorts of energy to help us work through unnecessary b.s. and learn how to create balance by taking care of the body, which actually helps balance the emotions and the mind. When my body is in pain for example, I am also less tolerant of people in general. We are interesting creatures. It really does all come to balancing where we are internally, or so it seems, to me.
Thanks SatoriFierce, your post about that dude made me laugh at how ridiculous it all is to get identified with the actions of others, particularly others perceptions of me...it's just a waste of precious time.
I realize my reaction to anything in general is dependant on "where I'm at" emotionally and mentally, and how I'm being approached. If I haven't eaten for example, and have been rushed through my day, it seems to put me on edge. When I am in a balanced space things don't irritate me as much and comments can blow by without effecting my disposition, and are often even amusing. We are magnetic beings, attracting all sorts of energy to help us work through unnecessary b.s. and learn how to create balance by taking care of the body, which actually helps balance the emotions and the mind. When my body is in pain for example, I am also less tolerant of people in general. We are interesting creatures. It really does all come to balancing where we are internally, or so it seems, to me.
Thanks SatoriFierce, your post about that dude made me laugh at how ridiculous it all is to get identified with the actions of others, particularly others perceptions of me...it's just a waste of precious time.
I swear Leo mooners attract the weirdest mofos. Or they simply bring it out in people. I could tell you stories from the life of this Sag/Leo moon I know... but I'll spare ya.
I'm often thought of doing a comedy skit, just for the sake of it. Laughter is a great release.
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