Can you guys understand what is going on here?

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What are her placements?

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My opinion

She is trying to have the relationship her way and you are trying to have the relationship your way.

You guys are still in a relationship though.

I don't know why you two keep pretending that it's ending. I think you know by now that it's not.

The energy you two put into breaking up and being confused should be the same energy you put into trying something different and seeing if changing up things will work.

Her fake friendship is trying to force you into going with the flow. I told you from the beginning that she wasn't gonna let you go. Why can't you see that?

You two seem to enjoy the turmoil of playing these hurtful love games though, cause neither of you changes enough to fix it.

Is her moon sign fixed as well?

Her moon is a virgo

Oh lol My ex was a Gemini with a Virgo moon.

I seriously think things would work out better if you stopped asking about the title for a lil bit. You two need to build back up the relationship and get back on solid ground, if there ever was a solid ground.

She is yours and has been yours. She knows you're in love with her, she most likely feels the same way. Proof is that she isn't letting you go and keeps trying to have you any way she can get you.

Can you tell that she loves you?

You base a lot on words that you need to hear and some people don't work like that. She seems to be showing you with actions. But both of you don't compromise well- which is something you both should be working on.

The "breaking up to make up cycle" will probably never get old for you unless she actually starts dating other men. There has to be something substantial in order for you to be able to justify breaking it off for good.

But I believe as long as she stays loyal to you, you will continue to keep doing this. You're in for a lot of years of unnecessary drama.

Sometimes love isn't enough. You guys seriously don't understand each other and are super stubborn about it.

And neither of you know the words to communicate properly to stop one upping the other for control.

Sorry I know I always point out what's wrong, but it's because these are areas that I see as lacking when I read the things that you write. I don't mean to come off super harsh. I just can't understand why you still don't understand her and it's been so many years.

But what do I she is telling me she doesn't want a relationship with me but wants friendship and I am telling her I cannot do that as I can't pretend when I am with her I love her. I don't want to let her go.. but she don't want me out of her life but on the other hand doesn't want me as a partner ?

YOU TWO ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP!

Take a poll here and ask everyone what they think and they will most likely say it's a relationship. Is it toxic as hell, yes, but it's a relationship. She's your girlfriend.

You're the only one who's clueless about it.

So are you willing to go with the flow and stop nagging over a title??

She tells you she loves you, she doesn't want to lose you, she's never felt this connected and blah blah blah, but it means nothing to you cause she hasn't agreed to to being your girlfriend. It's ridiculous.

She's lying about it being just friends, you two will be back in bed in no time. Just like you lie and say you can't do this anymore.

SMH

You need to learn to treat her like a child (I know this sounds kind of bad) and tell her what is happening, instead of asking.

If you treat her opposition to what you want ( a relationship) like a tantrum that's being thrown, instead of caving and pulling back hurt, you will get farther with her.

Putting your foot down about her being your girlfriend and not being bothered by her pretending she doesn't want it, will give you both the security that you two want.

You believe what she says too much and it causes more confusion on your end, so my advice is to go with the flow for now and build on the relationship so it gets back on good terms and when it does, then BAM, she is your girl friend, and that is that.

Don't question anything, just state it.

Don't listen to her words of saying no, don't even ask or leave her an option of saying no.

Introduce her as your girlfriend, treat her like your girlfriend and she will be your girlfriend. It's very simple.

Once that has been handled, you can move on to the moving in talks but you have to take it one step at a time.

Ummm, she broke it off with him...It is called a situationship, not a relationship. She also told him that she does not want to work on things...One thing that you are right about, is that she is trying to keep him from moving on, and keep him right where she can continue to toy with him.

and yet she still calls and bugs the hell out of him.

I don't think Geminis play games like that. They don't keep people around just cause they don't want someone else to have them.

They aren't selfish like that.

Bullbutter...I was with a Gemini man for seven years. He did not want a relationship with me, but kept me around, cause I had other suitors...They are hella selfish!

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Posted by halalbae

What are her placements?

Fickle Sun

Controlling Moon

Snake Charmer Merc

Strong Willed Venus

Selfish-As F*ck Mars.

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Posted by halalbae

What are her placements?

Fickle Sun

Controlling Moon

Snake Charmer Merc

Strong Willed Venus

Selfish-As F*ck Mars.

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Posted by Easha23000us

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by Easha23000us

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by Centaur12

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by Centaur12

Posted by saggurl88

My opinion

She is trying to have the relationship her way and you are trying to have the relationship your way.

You guys are still in a relationship though.

I don't know why you two keep pretending that it's ending. I think you know by now that it's not.

The energy you two put into breaking up and being confused should be the same energy you put into trying something different and seeing if changing up things will work.

Her fake friendship is trying to force you into going with the flow. I told you from the beginning that she wasn't gonna let you go. Why can't you see that?

You two seem to enjoy the turmoil of playing these hurtful love games though, cause neither of you changes enough to fix it.

Is her moon sign fixed as well?

Her moon is a virgo

Oh lol My ex was a Gemini with a Virgo moon.

I seriously think things would work out better if you stopped asking about the title for a lil bit. You two need to build back up the relationship and get back on solid ground, if there ever was a solid ground.

She is yours and has been yours. She knows you're in love with her, she most likely feels the same way. Proof is that she isn't letting you go and keeps trying to have you any way she can get you.

Can you tell that she loves you?

You base a lot on words that you need to hear and some people don't work like that. She seems to be showing you with actions. But both of you don't compromise well- which is something you both should be working on.

The "breaking up to make up cycle" will probably never get old for you unless she actually starts dating other men. There has to be something substantial in order for you to be able to justify breaking it off for good.

But I believe as long as she stays loyal to you, you will continue to keep doing this. You're in for a lot of years of unnecessary drama.

Sometimes love isn't enough. You guys seriously don't understand each other and are super stubborn about it.

And neither of you know the words to communicate properly to stop one upping the other for control.

Sorry I know I always point out what's wrong, but it's because these are areas that I see as lacking when I read the things that you write. I don't mean to come off super harsh. I just can't understand why you still don't understand her and it's been so many years.

But what do I she is telling me she doesn't want a relationship with me but wants friendship and I am telling her I cannot do that as I can't pretend when I am with her I love her. I don't want to let her go.. but she don't want me out of her life but on the other hand doesn't want me as a partner ?

YOU TWO ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP!

Take a poll here and ask everyone what they think and they will most likely say it's a relationship. Is it toxic as hell, yes, but it's a relationship. She's your girlfriend.

You're the only one who's clueless about it.

So are you willing to go with the flow and stop nagging over a title??

She tells you she loves you, she doesn't want to lose you, she's never felt this connected and blah blah blah, but it means nothing to you cause she hasn't agreed to to being your girlfriend. It's ridiculous.

She's lying about it being just friends, you two will be back in bed in no time. Just like you lie and say you can't do this anymore.

SMH

You need to learn to treat her like a child (I know this sounds kind of bad) and tell her what is happening, instead of asking.

If you treat her opposition to what you want ( a relationship) like a tantrum that's being thrown, instead of caving and pulling back hurt, you will get farther with her.

Putting your foot down about her being your girlfriend and not being bothered by her pretending she doesn't want it, will give you both the security that you two want.

You believe what she says too much and it causes more confusion on your end, so my advice is to go with the flow for now and build on the relationship so it gets back on good terms and when it does, then BAM, she is your girl friend, and that is that.

Don't question anything, just state it.

Don't listen to her words of saying no, don't even ask or leave her an option of saying no.

Introduce her as your girlfriend, treat her like your girlfriend and she will be your girlfriend. It's very simple.

Once that has been handled, you can move on to the moving in talks but you have to take it one step at a time.

Ummm, she broke it off with him...It is called a situationship, not a relationship. She also told him that she does not want to work on things...One thing that you are right about, is that she is trying to keep him from moving on, and keep him right where she can continue to toy with him.

and yet she still calls and bugs the hell out of him.

I don't think Geminis play games like that. They don't keep people around just cause they don't want someone else to have them.

They aren't selfish like that.

Bullbutter...I was with a Gemini man for seven years. He did not want a relationship with me, but kept me around, cause I had other suitors...They are hella selfish!

I can't explain it to you. There's just a difference with what's happening here.

She cares too much about him, and her actions and the words he writes about how she says things, shows it.

There's a clear difference when a person doesn't give a crap about you but keeps you around and you stay. Women are rarely like this.

I don't know what you're relationship with a Gemini was like, but a female always initiating (Very typical of Leo moons) is never good when dealing with men. You wasted too many years on him.

It's always the men who decide to be in the actual relationship, once a women gives the go ahead and opens herself to him.

He's (OP) been invested in her from the start, which is great. This is the type of relationship that is lasting. Men always need to be more invested then the woman in order for the relationship to get off the ground.

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Posted by saggurl88

Posted by Centaur12

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by Centaur12

Posted by saggurl88

My opinion

She is trying to have the relationship her way and you are trying to have the relationship your way.

You guys are still in a relationship though.

I don't know why you two keep pretending that it's ending. I think you know by now that it's not.

The energy you two put into breaking up and being confused should be the same energy you put into trying something different and seeing if changing up things will work.

Her fake friendship is trying to force you into going with the flow. I told you from the beginning that she wasn't gonna let you go. Why can't you see that?

You two seem to enjoy the turmoil of playing these hurtful love games though, cause neither of you changes enough to fix it.

Is her moon sign fixed as well?

Her moon is a virgo

Oh lol My ex was a Gemini with a Virgo moon.

I seriously think things would work out better if you stopped asking about the title for a lil bit. You two need to build back up the relationship and get back on solid ground, if there ever was a solid ground.

She is yours and has been yours. She knows you're in love with her, she most likely feels the same way. Proof is that she isn't letting you go and keeps trying to have you any way she can get you.

Can you tell that she loves you?

You base a lot on words that you need to hear and some people don't work like that. She seems to be showing you with actions. But both of you don't compromise well- which is something you both should be working on.

The "breaking up to make up cycle" will probably never get old for you unless she actually starts dating other men. There has to be something substantial in order for you to be able to justify breaking it off for good.

But I believe as long as she stays loyal to you, you will continue to keep doing this. You're in for a lot of years of unnecessary drama.

Sometimes love isn't enough. You guys seriously don't understand each other and are super stubborn about it.

And neither of you know the words to communicate properly to stop one upping the other for control.

Sorry I know I always point out what's wrong, but it's because these are areas that I see as lacking when I read the things that you write. I don't mean to come off super harsh. I just can't understand why you still don't understand her and it's been so many years.

But what do I she is telling me she doesn't want a relationship with me but wants friendship and I am telling her I cannot do that as I can't pretend when I am with her I love her. I don't want to let her go.. but she don't want me out of her life but on the other hand doesn't want me as a partner ?

YOU TWO ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP!

Take a poll here and ask everyone what they think and they will most likely say it's a relationship. Is it toxic as hell, yes, but it's a relationship. She's your girlfriend.

You're the only one who's clueless about it.

So are you willing to go with the flow and stop nagging over a title??

She tells you she loves you, she doesn't want to lose you, she's never felt this connected and blah blah blah, but it means nothing to you cause she hasn't agreed to to being your girlfriend. It's ridiculous.

She's lying about it being just friends, you two will be back in bed in no time. Just like you lie and say you can't do this anymore.

SMH

You need to learn to treat her like a child (I know this sounds kind of bad) and tell her what is happening, instead of asking.

If you treat her opposition to what you want ( a relationship) like a tantrum that's being thrown, instead of caving and pulling back hurt, you will get farther with her.

Putting your foot down about her being your girlfriend and not being bothered by her pretending she doesn't want it, will give you both the security that you two want.

You believe what she says too much and it causes more confusion on your end, so my advice is to go with the flow for now and build on the relationship so it gets back on good terms and when it does, then BAM, she is your girl friend, and that is that.

Don't question anything, just state it.

Don't listen to her words of saying no, don't even ask or leave her an option of saying no.

Introduce her as your girlfriend, treat her like your girlfriend and she will be your girlfriend. It's very simple.

Once that has been handled, you can move on to the moving in talks but you have to take it one step at a time.

Ummm, she broke it off with him...It is called a situationship, not a relationship. She also told him that she does not want to work on things...One thing that you are right about, is that she is trying to keep him from moving on, and keep him right where she can continue to toy with him.

and yet she still calls and bugs the hell out of him.

I don't think Geminis play games like that. They don't keep people around just cause they don't want someone else to have them.

They aren't selfish like that.

Bullbutter...I was with a Gemini man for seven years. He did not want a relationship with me, but kept me around, cause I had other suitors...They are hella selfish!

I can't explain it to you. There's just a difference with what's happening here.

She cares too much about him, and her actions and the words he writes about how she says things, shows it.

There's a clear difference when a person doesn't give a crap about you but keeps you around and you stay. Women are rarely like this.

I don't know what you're relationship with a Gemini was like, but a female always initiating (Very typical of Leo moons) is never good when dealing with men. You wasted too many years on him.

It's always the men who decide to be in the actual relationship, once a women gives the go ahead and opens herself to him.

He's (OP) been invested in her from the start, which is great. This is the type of relationship that is lasting. Men always need to be more invested then the woman in order for the relationship to get off the ground.

I respectfully disagree, coming from a woman who has a family full of Gemini women. I see first hand how they operate, and toy with men emotions, only to throw them away, once they get tired of them, or someone else comes along, whom they deemed better. My cousin, June 3rd, was dealing with an Aquarius, who was in love with her, she used him for money, and lied about being pregnant, so that she could keep the abortion money. Also, once she learned that he had started seeing a Pisces woman, she broke them up, by pretending to be in love with him again, only to discard him a year later. She would have continued to toy with him, had her kids father not come into the picture. A Virgo. Centaur12's situation with this Gemini, is all too familiar..I don't know why you cannot see it.

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Posted by saggurl88

Posted by Centaur12

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by Centaur12

Posted by saggurl88

My opinion

She is trying to have the relationship her way and you are trying to have the relationship your way.

You guys are still in a relationship though.

I don't know why you two keep pretending that it's ending. I think you know by now that it's not.

The energy you two put into breaking up and being confused should be the same energy you put into trying something different and seeing if changing up things will work.

Her fake friendship is trying to force you into going with the flow. I told you from the beginning that she wasn't gonna let you go. Why can't you see that?

You two seem to enjoy the turmoil of playing these hurtful love games though, cause neither of you changes enough to fix it.

Is her moon sign fixed as well?

Her moon is a virgo

Oh lol My ex was a Gemini with a Virgo moon.

I seriously think things would work out better if you stopped asking about the title for a lil bit. You two need to build back up the relationship and get back on solid ground, if there ever was a solid ground.

She is yours and has been yours. She knows you're in love with her, she most likely feels the same way. Proof is that she isn't letting you go and keeps trying to have you any way she can get you.

Can you tell that she loves you?

You base a lot on words that you need to hear and some people don't work like that. She seems to be showing you with actions. But both of you don't compromise well- which is something you both should be working on.

The "breaking up to make up cycle" will probably never get old for you unless she actually starts dating other men. There has to be something substantial in order for you to be able to justify breaking it off for good.

But I believe as long as she stays loyal to you, you will continue to keep doing this. You're in for a lot of years of unnecessary drama.

Sometimes love isn't enough. You guys seriously don't understand each other and are super stubborn about it.

And neither of you know the words to communicate properly to stop one upping the other for control.

Sorry I know I always point out what's wrong, but it's because these are areas that I see as lacking when I read the things that you write. I don't mean to come off super harsh. I just can't understand why you still don't understand her and it's been so many years.

But what do I she is telling me she doesn't want a relationship with me but wants friendship and I am telling her I cannot do that as I can't pretend when I am with her I love her. I don't want to let her go.. but she don't want me out of her life but on the other hand doesn't want me as a partner ?

YOU TWO ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP!

Take a poll here and ask everyone what they think and they will most likely say it's a relationship. Is it toxic as hell, yes, but it's a relationship. She's your girlfriend.

You're the only one who's clueless about it.

So are you willing to go with the flow and stop nagging over a title??

She tells you she loves you, she doesn't want to lose you, she's never felt this connected and blah blah blah, but it means nothing to you cause she hasn't agreed to to being your girlfriend. It's ridiculous.

She's lying about it being just friends, you two will be back in bed in no time. Just like you lie and say you can't do this anymore.

SMH

You need to learn to treat her like a child (I know this sounds kind of bad) and tell her what is happening, instead of asking.

If you treat her opposition to what you want ( a relationship) like a tantrum that's being thrown, instead of caving and pulling back hurt, you will get farther with her.

Putting your foot down about her being your girlfriend and not being bothered by her pretending she doesn't want it, will give you both the security that you two want.

You believe what she says too much and it causes more confusion on your end, so my advice is to go with the flow for now and build on the relationship so it gets back on good terms and when it does, then BAM, she is your girl friend, and that is that.

Don't question anything, just state it.

Don't listen to her words of saying no, don't even ask or leave her an option of saying no.

Introduce her as your girlfriend, treat her like your girlfriend and she will be your girlfriend. It's very simple.

Once that has been handled, you can move on to the moving in talks but you have to take it one step at a time.

Ummm, she broke it off with him...It is called a situationship, not a relationship. She also told him that she does not want to work on things...One thing that you are right about, is that she is trying to keep him from moving on, and keep him right where she can continue to toy with him.

and yet she still calls and bugs the hell out of him.

I don't think Geminis play games like that. They don't keep people around just cause they don't want someone else to have them.

They aren't selfish like that.

Bullbutter...I was with a Gemini man for seven years. He did not want a relationship with me, but kept me around, cause I had other suitors...They are hella selfish!

I can't explain it to you. There's just a difference with what's happening here.

She cares too much about him, and her actions and the words he writes about how she says things, shows it.

There's a clear difference when a person doesn't give a crap about you but keeps you around and you stay. Women are rarely like this.

I don't know what you're relationship with a Gemini was like, but a female always initiating (Very typical of Leo moons) is never good when dealing with men. You wasted too many years on him.

It's always the men who decide to be in the actual relationship, once a women gives the go ahead and opens herself to him.

He's (OP) been invested in her from the start, which is great. This is the type of relationship that is lasting. Men always need to be more invested then the woman in order for the relationship to get off the ground.

I respectfully disagree, coming from a woman who has a family full of Gemini women. I see first hand how they operate, and toy with men emotions, only to throw them away, once they get tired of them, or someone else comes along, whom they deemed better. My cousin, June 3rd, was dealing with an Aquarius, who was in love with her, she used him for money, and lied about being pregnant, so that she could keep the abortion money. Also, once she learned that he had started seeing a Pisces woman, she broke them up, by pretending to be in love with him again, only to discard him a year later. She would have continued to toy with him, had her kids father not come into the picture. A Virgo. Centaur12's situation with this Gemini, is all too familiar..I don't know why you cannot see it.

Because I had a one on one relationship with a Gemini. There were no others involved and no using for monetary gains.

Mind games for fun or just regular misbehaving is the Gemini way. It's not usually about hurting a person intentionally.

He has to try different things for himself to see what works and what doesn't and when and if he gets tired of it, I'm sure he will stop like people usually do.

I was just offering up advice like everyone else is doing. Only he knows what's best for him. So he can decide for himself on what advice there is to be taken.

I know what works for me in building a relationship with a Gemini, not destroying it. So that is the only advice I know to offer.

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Posted by Easha23000us

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by Centaur12

Posted by saggurl88

Posted by Centaur12

Posted by saggurl88

My opinion

She is trying to have the relationship her way and you are trying to have the relationship your way.

You guys are still in a relationship though.

I don't know why you two keep pretending that it's ending. I think you know by now that it's not.

The energy you two put into breaking up and being confused should be the same energy you put into trying something different and seeing if changing up things will work.

Her fake friendship is trying to force you into going with the flow. I told you from the beginning that she wasn't gonna let you go. Why can't you see that?

You two seem to enjoy the turmoil of playing these hurtful love games though, cause neither of you changes enough to fix it.

Is her moon sign fixed as well?

Her moon is a virgo

Oh lol My ex was a Gemini with a Virgo moon.

I seriously think things would work out better if you stopped asking about the title for a lil bit. You two need to build back up the relationship and get back on solid ground, if there ever was a solid ground.

She is yours and has been yours. She knows you're in love with her, she most likely feels the same way. Proof is that she isn't letting you go and keeps trying to have you any way she can get you.

Can you tell that she loves you?

You base a lot on words that you need to hear and some people don't work like that. She seems to be showing you with actions. But both of you don't compromise well- which is something you both should be working on.

The "breaking up to make up cycle" will probably never get old for you unless she actually starts dating other men. There has to be something substantial in order for you to be able to justify breaking it off for good.

But I believe as long as she stays loyal to you, you will continue to keep doing this. You're in for a lot of years of unnecessary drama.

Sometimes love isn't enough. You guys seriously don't understand each other and are super stubborn about it.

And neither of you know the words to communicate properly to stop one upping the other for control.

Sorry I know I always point out what's wrong, but it's because these are areas that I see as lacking when I read the things that you write. I don't mean to come off super harsh. I just can't understand why you still don't understand her and it's been so many years.

But what do I she is telling me she doesn't want a relationship with me but wants friendship and I am telling her I cannot do that as I can't pretend when I am with her I love her. I don't want to let her go.. but she don't want me out of her life but on the other hand doesn't want me as a partner ?

YOU TWO ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP!

Take a poll here and ask everyone what they think and they will most likely say it's a relationship. Is it toxic as hell, yes, but it's a relationship. She's your girlfriend.

You're the only one who's clueless about it.

So are you willing to go with the flow and stop nagging over a title??

She tells you she loves you, she doesn't want to lose you, she's never felt this connected and blah blah blah, but it means nothing to you cause she hasn't agreed to to being your girlfriend. It's ridiculous.

She's lying about it being just friends, you two will be back in bed in no time. Just like you lie and say you can't do this anymore.

SMH

You need to learn to treat her like a child (I know this sounds kind of bad) and tell her what is happening, instead of asking.

If you treat her opposition to what you want ( a relationship) like a tantrum that's being thrown, instead of caving and pulling back hurt, you will get farther with her.

Putting your foot down about her being your girlfriend and not being bothered by her pretending she doesn't want it, will give you both the security that you two want.

You believe what she says too much and it causes more confusion on your end, so my advice is to go with the flow for now and build on the relationship so it gets back on good terms and when it does, then BAM, she is your girl friend, and that is that.

Don't question anything, just state it.

Don't listen to her words of saying no, don't even ask or leave her an option of saying no.

Introduce her as your girlfriend, treat her like your girlfriend and she will be your girlfriend. It's very simple.

Once that has been handled, you can move on to the moving in talks but you have to take it one step at a time.

Ummm, she broke it off with him...It is called a situationship, not a relationship. She also told him that she does not want to work on things...One thing that you are right about, is that she is trying to keep him from moving on, and keep him right where she can continue to toy with him.

and yet she still calls and bugs the hell out of him.

I don't think Geminis play games like that. They don't keep people around just cause they don't want someone else to have them.

They aren't selfish like that.

Bullbutter...I was with a Gemini man for seven years. He did not want a relationship with me, but kept me around, cause I had other suitors...They are hella selfish!

I can't explain it to you. There's just a difference with what's happening here.

She cares too much about him, and her actions and the words he writes about how she says things, shows it.

There's a clear difference when a person doesn't give a crap about you but keeps you around and you stay. Women are rarely like this.

I don't know what you're relationship with a Gemini was like, but a female always initiating (Very typical of Leo moons) is never good when dealing with men. You wasted too many years on him.

It's always the men who decide to be in the actual relationship, once a women gives the go ahead and opens herself to him.

He's (OP) been invested in her from the start, which is great. This is the type of relationship that is lasting. Men always need to be more invested then the woman in order for the relationship to get off the ground.

I respectfully disagree, coming from a woman who has a family full of Gemini women. I see first hand how they operate, and toy with men emotions, only to throw them away, once they get tired of them, or someone else comes along, whom they deemed better. My cousin, June 3rd, was dealing with an Aquarius, who was in love with her, she used him for money, and lied about being pregnant, so that she could keep the abortion money. Also, once she learned that he had started seeing a Pisces woman, she broke them up, by pretending to be in love with him again, only to discard him a year later. She would have continued to toy with him, had her kids father not come into the picture. A Virgo. Centaur12's situation with this Gemini, is all too familiar..I don't know why you cannot see it.

Because I had a one on one relationship with a Gemini. There were no others involved and no using for monetary gains.

Mind games for fun or just regular misbehaving is the Gemini way. It's not usually about hurting a person intentionally.

He has to try different things for himself to see what works and what doesn't and when and if he gets tired of it, I'm sure he will stop like people usually do.

I was just offering up advice like everyone else is doing. Only he knows what's best for him. So he can decide for himself on what advice there is to be taken.

I know what works for me in building a relationship with a Gemini, not destroying it. So that is the only advice I know to offer.

I personally spoke with him, and did his reading, so I know that there is someone more suited for him, once he get this Gemini out of his system..Why stay and work it out, when it is hurting him, and making him feel even worse about himself? A relationship should be adding to you, not subtracting from you. She is taking away his confidence, happiness, self esteem, and the will to date other women. Try and fix this you say? I think he would be better off trashing the Gemini and the whole relationship altogether, and start anew.. (The tower, and the world card.)

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What are her placements?

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What are her placements?

Sun Gem

Virgo moon

Merc Gem

Venus Gem

Mars Aries

aww 😪 I like Virgo moon women BFF has one...

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My opinion

She is trying to have the relationship her way and you are trying to have the relationship your way.

You guys are still in a relationship though.

I don't know why you two keep pretending that it's ending. I think you know by now that it's not.

The energy you two put into breaking up and being confused should be the same energy you put into trying something different and seeing if changing up things will work.

Her fake friendship is trying to force you into going with the flow. I told you from the beginning that she wasn't gonna let you go. Why can't you see that?

You two seem to enjoy the turmoil of playing these hurtful love games though, cause neither of you changes enough to fix it.

Is her moon sign fixed as well?

Her moon is a virgo

Oh lol My ex was a Gemini with a Virgo moon.

I seriously think things would work out better if you stopped asking about the title for a lil bit. You two need to build back up the relationship and get back on solid ground, if there ever was a solid ground.

She is yours and has been yours. She knows you're in love with her, she most likely feels the same way. Proof is that she isn't letting you go and keeps trying to have you any way she can get you.

Can you tell that she loves you?

You base a lot on words that you need to hear and some people don't work like that. She seems to be showing you with actions. But both of you don't compromise well- which is something you both should be working on.

The "breaking up to make up cycle" will probably never get old for you unless she actually starts dating other men. There has to be something substantial in order for you to be able to justify breaking it off for good.

But I believe as long as she stays loyal to you, you will continue to keep doing this. You're in for a lot of years of unnecessary drama.

Sometimes love isn't enough. You guys seriously don't understand each other and are super stubborn about it.

And neither of you know the words to communicate properly to stop one upping the other for control.

Sorry I know I always point out what's wrong, but it's because these are areas that I see as lacking when I read the things that you write. I don't mean to come off super harsh. I just can't understand why you still don't understand her and it's been so many years.

But what do I she is telling me she doesn't want a relationship with me but wants friendship and I am telling her I cannot do that as I can't pretend when I am with her I love her. I don't want to let her go.. but she don't want me out of her life but on the other hand doesn't want me as a partner ?

YOU TWO ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP!

Take a poll here and ask everyone what they think and they will most likely say it's a relationship. Is it toxic as hell, yes, but it's a relationship. She's your girlfriend.

You're the only one who's clueless about it.

So are you willing to go with the flow and stop nagging over a title??

She tells you she loves you, she doesn't want to lose you, she's never felt this connected and blah blah blah, but it means nothing to you cause she hasn't agreed to to being your girlfriend. It's ridiculous.

She's lying about it being just friends, you two will be back in bed in no time. Just like you lie and say you can't do this anymore.

SMH

You need to learn to treat her like a child (I know this sounds kind of bad) and tell her what is happening, instead of asking.

If you treat her opposition to what you want ( a relationship) like a tantrum that's being thrown, instead of caving and pulling back hurt, you will get farther with her.

Putting your foot down about her being your girlfriend and not being bothered by her pretending she doesn't want it, will give you both the security that you two want.

You believe what she says too much and it causes more confusion on your end, so my advice is to go with the flow for now and build on the relationship so it gets back on good terms and when it does, then BAM, she is your girl friend, and that is that.

Don't question anything, just state it.

Don't listen to her words of saying no, don't even ask or leave her an option of saying no.

Introduce her as your girlfriend, treat her like your girlfriend and she will be your girlfriend. It's very simple.

Once that has been handled, you can move on to the moving in talks but you have to take it one step at a time.

Ummm, she broke it off with him...It is called a situationship, not a relationship. She also told him that she does not want to work on things...One thing that you are right about, is that she is trying to keep him from moving on, and keep him right where she can continue to toy with him.

and yet she still calls and bugs the hell out of him.

I don't think Geminis play games like that. They don't keep people around just cause they don't want someone else to have them.

They aren't selfish like that.

Bullbutter...I was with a Gemini man for seven years. He did not want a relationship with me, but kept me around, cause I had other suitors...They are hella selfish!

I can't explain it to you. There's just a difference with what's happening here.

She cares too much about him, and her actions and the words he writes about how she says things, shows it.

There's a clear difference when a person doesn't give a crap about you but keeps you around and you stay. Women are rarely like this.

I don't know what you're relationship with a Gemini was like, but a female always initiating (Very typical of Leo moons) is never good when dealing with men. You wasted too many years on him.

It's always the men who decide to be in the actual relationship, once a women gives the go ahead and opens herself to him.

He's (OP) been invested in her from the start, which is great. This is the type of relationship that is lasting. Men always need to be more invested then the woman in order for the relationship to get off the ground.

I respectfully disagree, coming from a woman who has a family full of Gemini women. I see first hand how they operate, and toy with men emotions, only to throw them away, once they get tired of them, or someone else comes along, whom they deemed better. My cousin, June 3rd, was dealing with an Aquarius, who was in love with her, she used him for money, and lied about being pregnant, so that she could keep the abortion money. Also, once she learned that he had started seeing a Pisces woman, she broke them up, by pretending to be in love with him again, only to discard him a year later. She would have continued to toy with him, had her kids father not come into the picture. A Virgo. Centaur12's situation with this Gemini, is all too familiar..I don't know why you cannot see it.

Because I had a one on one relationship with a Gemini. There were no others involved and no using for monetary gains.

Mind games for fun or just regular misbehaving is the Gemini way. It's not usually about hurting a person intentionally.

He has to try different things for himself to see what works and what doesn't and when and if he gets tired of it, I'm sure he will stop like people usually do.

I was just offering up advice like everyone else is doing. Only he knows what's best for him. So he can decide for himself on what advice there is to be taken.

I know what works for me in building a relationship with a Gemini, not destroying it. So that is the only advice I know to offer.

I personally spoke with him, and did his reading, so I know that there is someone more suited for him, once he get this Gemini out of his system..Why stay and work it out, when it is hurting him, and making him feel even worse about himself? A relationship should be adding to you, not subtracting from you. She is taking away his confidence, happiness, self esteem, and the will to date other women. Try and fix this you say? I think he would be better off trashing the Gemini and the whole relationship altogether, and start anew.. (The tower, and the world card.)

He can look at 5 different readings on YouTube and get 5 different scenarios. Readings are open for interpretation.

He will make that decision for himself, I guess. I have nothing more to say about it.

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My opinion

She is trying to have the relationship her way and you are trying to have the relationship your way.

You guys are still in a relationship though.

I don't know why you two keep pretending that it's ending. I think you know by now that it's not.

The energy you two put into breaking up and being confused should be the same energy you put into trying something different and seeing if changing up things will work.

Her fake friendship is trying to force you into going with the flow. I told you from the beginning that she wasn't gonna let you go. Why can't you see that?

You two seem to enjoy the turmoil of playing these hurtful love games though, cause neither of you changes enough to fix it.

Is her moon sign fixed as well?

Her moon is a virgo

Oh lol My ex was a Gemini with a Virgo moon.

I seriously think things would work out better if you stopped asking about the title for a lil bit. You two need to build back up the relationship and get back on solid ground, if there ever was a solid ground.

She is yours and has been yours. She knows you're in love with her, she most likely feels the same way. Proof is that she isn't letting you go and keeps trying to have you any way she can get you.

Can you tell that she loves you?

You base a lot on words that you need to hear and some people don't work like that. She seems to be showing you with actions. But both of you don't compromise well- which is something you both should be working on.

The "breaking up to make up cycle" will probably never get old for you unless she actually starts dating other men. There has to be something substantial in order for you to be able to justify breaking it off for good.

But I believe as long as she stays loyal to you, you will continue to keep doing this. You're in for a lot of years of unnecessary drama.

Sometimes love isn't enough. You guys seriously don't understand each other and are super stubborn about it.

And neither of you know the words to communicate properly to stop one upping the other for control.

Sorry I know I always point out what's wrong, but it's because these are areas that I see as lacking when I read the things that you write. I don't mean to come off super harsh. I just can't understand why you still don't understand her and it's been so many years.

But what do I she is telling me she doesn't want a relationship with me but wants friendship and I am telling her I cannot do that as I can't pretend when I am with her I love her. I don't want to let her go.. but she don't want me out of her life but on the other hand doesn't want me as a partner ?

YOU TWO ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP!

Take a poll here and ask everyone what they think and they will most likely say it's a relationship. Is it toxic as hell, yes, but it's a relationship. She's your girlfriend.

You're the only one who's clueless about it.

So are you willing to go with the flow and stop nagging over a title??

She tells you she loves you, she doesn't want to lose you, she's never felt this connected and blah blah blah, but it means nothing to you cause she hasn't agreed to to being your girlfriend. It's ridiculous.

She's lying about it being just friends, you two will be back in bed in no time. Just like you lie and say you can't do this anymore.

SMH

You need to learn to treat her like a child (I know this sounds kind of bad) and tell her what is happening, instead of asking.

If you treat her opposition to what you want ( a relationship) like a tantrum that's being thrown, instead of caving and pulling back hurt, you will get farther with her.

one step at a time.

Ummm, she broke it off with him...It is called a situationship, not a relationship. She also told him that she does not want to work on things...One thing that you are right about, is that she is trying to keep him from moving on, and keep him right where she can continue to toy with him.

and yet she still calls and bugs the hell out of him.

I don't think Geminis play games like that. They don't keep people around just cause they don't want someone else to have them.

They aren't selfish like that.

Bullbutter...I was with a Gemini man for seven years. He did not want a relationship with me, but kept me around, cause I had other suitors...They are hella selfish!

I can't explain it to you. There's just a difference with what's happening here.

She cares too much about him, and her actions and the words he writes about how she says things, shows it.

There's a clear difference when a person doesn't give a crap about you but keeps you around and you stay. Women are rarely like this.

I don't know what you're relationship with a Gemini was like, but a female always initiating (Very typical of Leo moons) is never good when dealing with men. You wasted too many years on him.

It's always the men who decide to be in the actual relationship, once a women gives the go ahead and opens herself to him.

He's (OP) been invested in her from the start, which is great. This is the type of relationship that is lasting. Men always need to be more invested then the woman in order for the relationship to get off the ground.

I respectfully disagree, coming from a woman who has a family full of Gemini women. I see first hand how they operate, and toy with men emotions, only to throw them away, once they get tired of them, or someone else comes along, whom they deemed better. My cousin, June 3rd, was dealing with an Aquarius, who was in love with her, she used him for money, and lied about being pregnant, so that she could keep the abortion money. Also, once she learned that he had started seeing a Pisces woman, she broke them up, by pretending to be in love with him again, only to discard him a year later. She would have continued to toy with him, had her kids father not come into the picture. A Virgo. Centaur12's situation with this Gemini, is all too familiar..I don't know why you cannot see it.

Because I had a one on one relationship with a Gemini. There were no others involved and no using for monetary gains.

Mind games for fun or just regular misbehaving is the Gemini way. It's not usually about hurting a person intentionally.

He has to try different things for himself to see what works and what doesn't and when and if he gets tired of it, I'm sure he will stop like people usually do.

I was just offering up advice like everyone else is doing. Only he knows what's best for him. So he can decide for himself on what advice there is to be taken.

I know what works for me in building a relationship with a Gemini, not destroying it. So that is the only advice I know to offer.

I personally spoke with him, and did his reading, so I know that there is someone more suited for him, once he get this Gemini out of his system..Why stay and work it out, when it is hurting him, and making him feel even worse about himself? A relationship should be adding to you, not subtracting from you. She is taking away his confidence, happiness, self esteem, and the will to date other women. Try and fix this you say? I think he would be better off trashing the Gemini and the whole relationship altogether, and start anew.. (The tower, and the world card.)

He can look at 5 different readings on YouTube and get 5 different scenarios. Readings are open for interpretation.

He will make that decision for himself, I guess. I have nothing more to say about it.

Nope...What I did for him was a specialty reading... I do not tell people what they want to hear. I let the cards speak for themselves...There is a huge difference.

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Interested to know from everything I have told you guys about. What do you think she is doing if I start a poll.

1. Playing me and will drop me once she finds someone else.

2 . She loves me and whats to rebuild but is being careful so she is pretending she wants to be friends but really she still has in her mind that we are an item so is hopefull thing will change this time.

3 . Using me becuase she does not want to be alone.


4 . She doesnt want me at all but doesn't want anyone else to have me.



Put down your number if what you think be interested to see how many of you think of what one it could be.

Why does it matter though?

You shouldn't make decisions now based on what she wants, it's about what you want and what's good for you and the kids.

I didn't really follow your story, scrolled over it... but forget this poll and do what makes YOU happy! Life doesn't revolve around her ffs

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Posted by Maxian

Posted by Centaur12

Interested to know from everything I have told you guys about. What do you think she is doing if I start a poll.

1. Playing me and will drop me once she finds someone else.

2 . She loves me and whats to rebuild but is being careful so she is pretending she wants to be friends but really she still has in her mind that we are an item so is hopefull thing will change this time.

3 . Using me becuase she does not want to be alone.


4 . She doesnt want me at all but doesn't want anyone else to have me.



Put down your number if what you think be interested to see how many of you think of what one it could be.

Why does it matter though?

You shouldn't make decisions now based on what she wants, it's about what you want and what's good for you and the kids.

I didn't really follow your story, scrolled over it... but forget this poll and do what makes YOU happy! Life doesn't revolve around her ffs

I know I completely agree I was just wonder what people thought really.

I know what I want to do and what I should do.

Asking the same question won't get you a different answer.

People have given their thoughts already, a few threads ago. But you keep mentioning updates between you and the Gem, as if it changes the situation, when it does not.

but didn't you read the new message she sent him? 😂🤦‍♂️

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Posted by Centaur12

Posted by Maxian

Posted by Centaur12

Interested to know from everything I have told you guys about. What do you think she is doing if I start a poll.

1. Playing me and will drop me once she finds someone else.

2 . She loves me and whats to rebuild but is being careful so she is pretending she wants to be friends but really she still has in her mind that we are an item so is hopefull thing will change this time.

3 . Using me becuase she does not want to be alone.


4 . She doesnt want me at all but doesn't want anyone else to have me.



Put down your number if what you think be interested to see how many of you think of what one it could be.

Why does it matter though?

You shouldn't make decisions now based on what she wants, it's about what you want and what's good for you and the kids.

I didn't really follow your story, scrolled over it... but forget this poll and do what makes YOU happy! Life doesn't revolve around her ffs

I know I completely agree I was just wonder what people thought really.

I know what I want to do and what I should do.

Asking the same question won't get you a different answer.

People have given their thoughts already, a few threads ago. But you keep mentioning updates between you and the Gem, as if it changes the situation, when it does not.

but didn't you read the new message she sent him? 😂🤦‍♂️

Thing is she is telling me she feels hurt because I never valued our relationship at the time when my sister said it won't be a good idea to bring your partner to a meal as we haven't spoken since we fell out and there will be tension there between us.

But I didn't want to put my partner in that situation so I decided to keep her out of it but what I should of done was given her the option it was wrong of me.

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Posted by Maxian

Posted by Centaur12

Interested to know from everything I have told you guys about. What do you think she is doing if I start a poll.

1. Playing me and will drop me once she finds someone else.

2 . She loves me and whats to rebuild but is being careful so she is pretending she wants to be friends but really she still has in her mind that we are an item so is hopefull thing will change this time.

3 . Using me becuase she does not want to be alone.


4 . She doesnt want me at all but doesn't want anyone else to have me.



Put down your number if what you think be interested to see how many of you think of what one it could be.

Why does it matter though?

You shouldn't make decisions now based on what she wants, it's about what you want and what's good for you and the kids.

I didn't really follow your story, scrolled over it... but forget this poll and do what makes YOU happy! Life doesn't revolve around her ffs

I know I completely agree I was just wonder what people thought really.

I know what I want to do and what I should do.

Asking the same question won't get you a different answer.

People have given their thoughts already, a few threads ago. But you keep mentioning updates between you and the Gem, as if it changes the situation, when it does not.

but didn't you read the new message she sent him? 😂🤦‍♂️

Thing is she is telling me she feels hurt because I never valued our relationship at the time when my sister said it won't be a good idea to bring your partner to a meal as we haven't spoken since we fell out and there will be tension there between us.

But I didn't want to put my partner in that situation so I decided to keep her out of it but what I should of done was given her the option it was wrong of me.

So I think I need to dust myself off and life is an experience for us all and a learning curve.

I know what she wants and needs from me.

That is to feel like I have her back and to feel included because she feels alone right now she rang me this morning crying upset telling me she's feeling really low and hurt from it and thought no matter what we would always have eachothers backs and she obviously feels like I have let her down.

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Posted by Centaur12

Interested to know from everything I have told you guys about. What do you think she is doing if I start a poll.

1. Playing me and will drop me once she finds someone else.

2 . She loves me and whats to rebuild but is being careful so she is pretending she wants to be friends but really she still has in her mind that we are an item so is hopefull thing will change this time.

3 . Using me becuase she does not want to be alone.


4 . She doesnt want me at all but doesn't want anyone else to have me.



Put down your number if what you think be interested to see how many of you think of what one it could be.

Why does it matter though?

You shouldn't make decisions now based on what she wants, it's about what you want and what's good for you and the kids.

I didn't really follow your story, scrolled over it... but forget this poll and do what makes YOU happy! Life doesn't revolve around her ffs

I know I completely agree I was just wonder what people thought really.

I know what I want to do and what I should do.

Asking the same question won't get you a different answer.

People have given their thoughts already, a few threads ago. But you keep mentioning updates between you and the Gem, as if it changes the situation, when it does not.

but didn't you read the new message she sent him? 😂🤦‍♂️

Thing is she is telling me she feels hurt because I never valued our relationship at the time when my sister said it won't be a good idea to bring your partner to a meal as we haven't spoken since we fell out and there will be tension there between us.

But I didn't want to put my partner in that situation so I decided to keep her out of it but what I should of done was given her the option it was wrong of me.

So I think I need to dust myself off and life is an experience for us all and a learning curve.

I know what she wants and needs from me.

That is to feel like I have her back and to feel included because she feels alone right now she rang me this morning crying upset telling me she's feeling really low and hurt from it and thought no matter what we would always have eachothers backs and she obviously feels like I have let her down.

You're a sucker but good luck lol

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Posted by Centaur12

Posted by Maxian

Posted by Centaur12

Interested to know from everything I have told you guys about. What do you think she is doing if I start a poll.

1. Playing me and will drop me once she finds someone else.

2 . She loves me and whats to rebuild but is being careful so she is pretending she wants to be friends but really she still has in her mind that we are an item so is hopefull thing will change this time.

3 . Using me becuase she does not want to be alone.


4 . She doesnt want me at all but doesn't want anyone else to have me.



Put down your number if what you think be interested to see how many of you think of what one it could be.

Why does it matter though?

You shouldn't make decisions now based on what she wants, it's about what you want and what's good for you and the kids.

I didn't really follow your story, scrolled over it... but forget this poll and do what makes YOU happy! Life doesn't revolve around her ffs

I know I completely agree I was just wonder what people thought really.

I know what I want to do and what I should do.

Asking the same question won't get you a different answer.

People have given their thoughts already, a few threads ago. But you keep mentioning updates between you and the Gem, as if it changes the situation, when it does not.

but didn't you read the new message she sent him? 😂🤦‍♂️

Thing is she is telling me she feels hurt because I never valued our relationship at the time when my sister said it won't be a good idea to bring your partner to a meal as we haven't spoken since we fell out and there will be tension there between us.

But I didn't want to put my partner in that situation so I decided to keep her out of it but what I should of done was given her the option it was wrong of me.

So I think I need to dust myself off and life is an experience for us all and a learning curve.

I know what she wants and needs from me.

That is to feel like I have her back and to feel included because she feels alone right now she rang me this morning crying upset telling me she's feeling really low and hurt from it and thought no matter what we would always have eachothers backs and she obviously feels like I have let her down.

You're a sucker but good luck lol

Why do you think I am a sucker ?

"I know what she wants and needs from me" because all she has to do is tell you she feels lonely and you come running once again.

She doesn't care what you want lol

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She's upset about the meal, that's a protest behaviour. What she wants from you is reassurance. Similar to you, you need a lot of reassurance from her that you havent been getting. You will find all of this in the book I told you.

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Posted by xiongmao

Posted by Centaur12

Posted by Maxian

Posted by Centaur12

Interested to know from everything I have told you guys about. What do you think she is doing if I start a poll.

1. Playing me and will drop me once she finds someone else.

2 . She loves me and whats to rebuild but is being careful so she is pretending she wants to be friends but really she still has in her mind that we are an item so is hopefull thing will change this time.

3 . Using me becuase she does not want to be alone.


4 . She doesnt want me at all but doesn't want anyone else to have me.



Put down your number if what you think be interested to see how many of you think of what one it could be.

Why does it matter though?

You shouldn't make decisions now based on what she wants, it's about what you want and what's good for you and the kids.

I didn't really follow your story, scrolled over it... but forget this poll and do what makes YOU happy! Life doesn't revolve around her ffs

I know I completely agree I was just wonder what people thought really.

I know what I want to do and what I should do.

Asking the same question won't get you a different answer.

People have given their thoughts already, a few threads ago. But you keep mentioning updates between you and the Gem, as if it changes the situation, when it does not.

but didn't you read the new message she sent him? 😂🤦‍♂️

Thing is she is telling me she feels hurt because I never valued our relationship at the time when my sister said it won't be a good idea to bring your partner to a meal as we haven't spoken since we fell out and there will be tension there between us.

But I didn't want to put my partner in that situation so I decided to keep her out of it but what I should of done was given her the option it was wrong of me.

So I think I need to dust myself off and life is an experience for us all and a learning curve.

I know what she wants and needs from me.

That is to feel like I have her back and to feel included because she feels alone right now she rang me this morning crying upset telling me she's feeling really low and hurt from it and thought no matter what we would always have eachothers backs and she obviously feels like I have let her down.

You're a sucker but good luck lol

Why do you think I am a sucker ?

"I know what she wants and needs from me" because all she has to do is tell you she feels lonely and you come running once again.

She doesn't care what you want lol

I get that but I was wrong to not include her wasn't I ?


I am not running to her I haven't seen her since Saturday and I am doing my own stuff she hasn't asked me to do anything just that she's very upset about how I did not include her.

Yes Gemini diversion tactics. Don't you know a Gem can talk their way round anything? She's upset about one meal from the past where you didn't include her and she has you now focused on this and feeling guilty and like you need to make it up to her 😂 it's bullshit. Like her messages - one minute heartbroken and then next as if everything is fine

She's manipulating you to get you where she wants you. There for her when she wants and out of the picture when she doesn't

And you fall for it!

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Interested to know from everything I have told you guys about. What do you think she is doing if I start a poll.

1. Playing me and will drop me once she finds someone else.

2 . She loves me and whats to rebuild but is being careful so she is pretending she wants to be friends but really she still has in her mind that we are an item so is hopefull thing will change this time.

3 . Using me becuase she does not want to be alone.


4 . She doesnt want me at all but doesn't want anyone else to have me.



Put down your number if what you think be interested to see how many of you think of what one it could be.

Why does it matter though?

You shouldn't make decisions now based on what she wants, it's about what you want and what's good for you and the kids.

I didn't really follow your story, scrolled over it... but forget this poll and do what makes YOU happy! Life doesn't revolve around her ffs

I know I completely agree I was just wonder what people thought really.

I know what I want to do and what I should do.

Asking the same question won't get you a different answer.

People have given their thoughts already, a few threads ago. But you keep mentioning updates between you and the Gem, as if it changes the situation, when it does not.

but didn't you read the new message she sent him? 😂🤦‍♂️

Thing is she is telling me she feels hurt because I never valued our relationship at the time when my sister said it won't be a good idea to bring your partner to a meal as we haven't spoken since we fell out and there will be tension there between us.

But I didn't want to put my partner in that situation so I decided to keep her out of it but what I should of done was given her the option it was wrong of me.

So I think I need to dust myself off and life is an experience for us all and a learning curve.

I know what she wants and needs from me.

That is to feel like I have her back and to feel included because she feels alone right now she rang me this morning crying upset telling me she's feeling really low and hurt from it and thought no matter what we would always have eachothers backs and she obviously feels like I have let her down.

You're a sucker but good luck lol

Why do you think I am a sucker ?

"I know what she wants and needs from me" because all she has to do is tell you she feels lonely and you come running once again.

She doesn't care what you want lol

I get that but I was wrong to not include her wasn't I ?


I am not running to her I haven't seen her since Saturday and I am doing my own stuff she hasn't asked me to do anything just that she's very upset about how I did not include her.

Yes Gemini diversion tactics. Don't you know a Gem can talk their way round anything? She's upset about one meal from the past where you didn't include her and she has you now focused on this and feeling guilty and like you need to make it up to her 😂 it's bullshit. Like her messages - one minute heartbroken and then next as if everything is fine

She's manipulating you to get you where she wants you. There for her when she wants and out of the picture when she doesn't

And you fall for it!

Okay I understand what you are saying so can I brake this cycle and how do i do that so we can cut the bullshit?

You ever had an old car and you take it to the garage and they say "well we could try and fix it but honestly it will cost more than the car is worth and anyway chances are you'll be back here in a few months with some new problem. It's old, it's worn out and you're better off scrapping it and buying a new one" ?

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Omg I think that you are a troll. This cannot be real. She wants everything you give her plus the ability to move on when someone more interesting shows up. You are either dumb or know exactly what you want and come here and torture everyone with stupid questions until someone says what you want to hear. We have all been there one way or another. It sucks and it's hard but it's a part of life. Let things happen and stfu with your whiney need for getting what you want.

haha this is great! Very well summarised

No, I get him...but also I finally get the people who mocked me when I wrote about my ex. They were right, and him cutting me off for good was painful as Hell, but time does heal everything.

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What are her placements?

Sun Gem

Virgo moon

Merc Gem

Venus Gem

Mars Aries

I am a Sun Gem, Virgo moon and Mars Aries

She probably thinks youre moving too fast and dont have firm boundaries. Both are extremely unattractive to Virgo Moons. The only reason shes sticking around is because you offer yourself to her completely

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The user who posted this message has hidden it.

Damn, why did you hide that? You spoke so much sense and truth there

I thought I was replying to his private message lol I'll unhide it

Thanks! That helps me understand some things also about someone who has been very firm with boundaries with me and you're right it does make me fall for her again. Discipline and stability ha I never would have thought that is what I needed but it' so true that attracts me and keeps me consistently attracted and stops the flip-floppy destructive tendencies as you put it

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The user who posted this message has hidden it.

Damn, why did you hide that? You spoke so much sense and truth there

I thought I was replying to his private message lol I'll unhide it

Thanks! That helps me understand some things also about someone who has been very firm with boundaries with me and you're right it does make me fall for her again. Discipline and stability ha I never would have thought that is what I needed but it' so true that attracts me and keeps me consistently attracted and stops the flip-floppy destructive tendencies as you put it

So it helps me understand alittle more what sort of way and how did they interpretate the boundaries with you because everytime I try to do it she gets really mad says she's really hurt and will ignore me a little.

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She's upset about the meal, that's a protest behaviour. What she wants from you is reassurance. Similar to you, you need a lot of reassurance from her that you havent been getting. You will find all of this in the book I told you.

Reassurance how though I have said sorry and I will make better decisions in the future.

She told me she wants me to have her back to not make her feel alone.

Read the damn book. Everything is laid out perfectly there.

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She's upset about the meal, that's a protest behaviour. What she wants from you is reassurance. Similar to you, you need a lot of reassurance from her that you havent been getting. You will find all of this in the book I told you.

Reassurance how though I have said sorry and I will make better decisions in the future.

She told me she wants me to have her back to not make her feel alone.

Read the damn book. Everything is laid out perfectly there.

....or read any damn book!

It has to be preferable to the alternative lol

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She's upset about the meal, that's a protest behaviour. What she wants from you is reassurance. Similar to you, you need a lot of reassurance from her that you havent been getting. You will find all of this in the book I told you.

Reassurance how though I have said sorry and I will make better decisions in the future.

She told me she wants me to have her back to not make her feel alone.

Read the damn book. Everything is laid out perfectly there.

....or read any damn book!

It has to be preferable to the alternative lol

I don't have time right now for the books lol.

So I held her told her I am sorry and I understand how she is feeling and why she is feeling this way and I also, told her this will never happen again and meant it I looked her in her eyes and held her hand and told her straight what more reassurance does she need.

We slept together and she said we shouldn't be doing this and then she got upset after we stopped and started to cry what more can I do she said she can't be with me right now because she feels hurt so I said don't contact me if you can't be with me and we clearly can't do friends either. And it's been 2 days and she hasn't so far.

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She's upset about the meal, that's a protest behaviour. What she wants from you is reassurance. Similar to you, you need a lot of reassurance from her that you havent been getting. You will find all of this in the book I told you.

Reassurance how though I have said sorry and I will make better decisions in the future.

She told me she wants me to have her back to not make her feel alone.

Read the damn book. Everything is laid out perfectly there.

....or read any damn book!

It has to be preferable to the alternative lol

I don't have time right now for the books lol.

So I held her told her I am sorry and I understand how she is feeling and why she is feeling this way and I also, told her this will never happen again and meant it I looked her in her eyes and held her hand and told her straight what more reassurance does she need.

We slept together and she said we shouldn't be doing this and then she got upset after we stopped and started to cry what more can I do she said she can't be with me right now because she feels hurt so I said don't contact me if you can't be with me and we clearly can't do friends either. And it's been 2 days and she hasn't so far.

I meant for the books to be as a distraction from your complex lovelife ....

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The user who posted this message has hidden it.

Damn, why did you hide that? You spoke so much sense and truth there

I thought I was replying to his private message lol I'll unhide it

Thanks! That helps me understand some things also about someone who has been very firm with boundaries with me and you're right it does make me fall for her again. Discipline and stability ha I never would have thought that is what I needed but it' so true that attracts me and keeps me consistently attracted and stops the flip-floppy destructive tendencies as you put it

So it helps me understand alittle more what sort of way and how did they interpretate the boundaries with you because everytime I try to do it she gets really mad says she's really hurt and will ignore me a little.

You can't fake it - you have to really mean it. You have to make it clear that you're fine without her. Then after a while she'll start to come closer to you and you need to not open up to her but make her prove herself. Be assured of what you want. If you desire true commitment and consistency from her then be clear that is all you are willing to have with her, otherwise nothing.. as soon as you give in to her hot/cold tendencies then you know you are back to square one again

The trouble is you are scared she doesn't want you but you have to accept that may be the case also. You might have to break up and that's it. The point is you need to be firm one way or the other and not keep doing this halfway shit

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The user who posted this message has hidden it.

Damn, why did you hide that? You spoke so much sense and truth there

I thought I was replying to his private message lol I'll unhide it

Thanks! That helps me understand some things also about someone who has been very firm with boundaries with me and you're right it does make me fall for her again. Discipline and stability ha I never would have thought that is what I needed but it' so true that attracts me and keeps me consistently attracted and stops the flip-floppy destructive tendencies as you put it

So it helps me understand alittle more what sort of way and how did they interpretate the boundaries with you because everytime I try to do it she gets really mad says she's really hurt and will ignore me a little.

You can't fake it - you have to really mean it. You have to make it clear that you're fine without her. Then after a while she'll start to come closer to you and you need to not open up to her but make her prove herself. Be assured of what you want. If you desire true commitment and consistency from her then be clear that is all you are willing to have with her, otherwise nothing.. as soon as you give in to her hot/cold tendencies then you know you are back to square one again

The trouble is you are scared she doesn't want you but you have to accept that may be the case also. You might have to break up and that's it. The point is you need to be firm one way or the other and not keep doing this halfway shit

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The user who posted this message has hidden it.

Damn, why did you hide that? You spoke so much sense and truth there

I thought I was replying to his private message lol I'll unhide it

Thanks! That helps me understand some things also about someone who has been very firm with boundaries with me and you're right it does make me fall for her again. Discipline and stability ha I never would have thought that is what I needed but it' so true that attracts me and keeps me consistently attracted and stops the flip-floppy destructive tendencies as you put it

So it helps me understand alittle more what sort of way and how did they interpretate the boundaries with you because everytime I try to do it she gets really mad says she's really hurt and will ignore me a little.

You can't fake it - you have to really mean it. You have to make it clear that you're fine without her. Then after a while she'll start to come closer to you and you need to not open up to her but make her prove herself. Be assured of what you want. If you desire true commitment and consistency from her then be clear that is all you are willing to have with her, otherwise nothing.. as soon as you give in to her hot/cold tendencies then you know you are back to square one again

The trouble is you are scared she doesn't want you but you have to accept that may be the case also. You might have to break up and that's it. The point is you need to be firm one way or the other and not keep doing this halfway shit

When was having sex she told me we shouldn't be doing this and then said don't cum in me etc she could have someone else.

If she's saying she just wants to be friends and you are thinking she might have someone else then that's a sign that the relationship is coming to an end

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The user who posted this message has hidden it.

Damn, why did you hide that? You spoke so much sense and truth there

I thought I was replying to his private message lol I'll unhide it

Thanks! That helps me understand some things also about someone who has been very firm with boundaries with me and you're right it does make me fall for her again. Discipline and stability ha I never would have thought that is what I needed but it' so true that attracts me and keeps me consistently attracted and stops the flip-floppy destructive tendencies as you put it

So it helps me understand alittle more what sort of way and how did they interpretate the boundaries with you because everytime I try to do it she gets really mad says she's really hurt and will ignore me a little.

You can't fake it - you have to really mean it. You have to make it clear that you're fine without her. Then after a while she'll start to come closer to you and you need to not open up to her but make her prove herself. Be assured of what you want. If you desire true commitment and consistency from her then be clear that is all you are willing to have with her, otherwise nothing.. as soon as you give in to her hot/cold tendencies then you know you are back to square one again

The trouble is you are scared she doesn't want you but you have to accept that may be the case also. You might have to break up and that's it. The point is you need to be firm one way or the other and not keep doing this halfway shit

When was having sex she told me we shouldn't be doing this and then said don't cum in me etc she could have someone else.

If she's saying she just wants to be friends and you are thinking she might have someone else then that's a sign that the relationship is coming to an end

Why??

She doesn't want to be intimate and you don't trust her....

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The user who posted this message has hidden it.

Damn, why did you hide that? You spoke so much sense and truth there

I thought I was replying to his private message lol I'll unhide it

Thanks! That helps me understand some things also about someone who has been very firm with boundaries with me and you're right it does make me fall for her again. Discipline and stability ha I never would have thought that is what I needed but it' so true that attracts me and keeps me consistently attracted and stops the flip-floppy destructive tendencies as you put it

So it helps me understand alittle more what sort of way and how did they interpretate the boundaries with you because everytime I try to do it she gets really mad says she's really hurt and will ignore me a little.

You can't fake it - you have to really mean it. You have to make it clear that you're fine without her. Then after a while she'll start to come closer to you and you need to not open up to her but make her prove herself. Be assured of what you want. If you desire true commitment and consistency from her then be clear that is all you are willing to have with her, otherwise nothing.. as soon as you give in to her hot/cold tendencies then you know you are back to square one again

The trouble is you are scared she doesn't want you but you have to accept that may be the case also. You might have to break up and that's it. The point is you need to be firm one way or the other and not keep doing this halfway shit

When was having sex she told me we shouldn't be doing this and then said don't cum in me etc she could have someone else.

If she's saying she just wants to be friends and you are thinking she might have someone else then that's a sign that the relationship is coming to an end

Why??

She doesn't want to be intimate and you don't trust her....

Yes but why doesn't she and why would she say them things is it all part of her game playing?

No I think she wants to move away from a relationship which she doesn't see as having a future

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