Posted by TheCanBullI guess I am referring to people with morals.
Uhmm hate to burst your bubble but people can live a monogamous life together without marriage.
Marriage is nice though.
Posted by AliensusedourbogrollGood luck with marrying the woman I want to commit to, and not marrying the woman I don't want to commit to? It seems to be working just fine.
Good luck with that! ?
Posted by TheCanBullAlso it depends on the race - some cultures are not taught to marry.
Uhmm hate to burst your bubble but people can live a monogamous life together without marriage.
Marriage is nice though.
Posted by MyStarsShineI was married for 15 years to my first wife before she died of cancer. I still mean what I say.
Lol ... Wait till you are married and see if you have the same opinion
Posted by MyStarsShineYes this world is full of all kinds. Sounds like you made some bad choices.
...and if you hadn't noticed, lots of men WAIT till they are married to have other women
Posted by TheCanBullIt's not proving, it's a choice for those of us who grew up in households where marriage values were instilled.
If you need to prove to someone your love through marriage, then she don't trust you, and she obviously does not love you as much as she thought she did.
Posted by TheCanBullI have had great luck with marriage. I was happily married for 15 years before my wife died. Sounds like you haven't had good married role models. When you find the woman you are in love with, marriage does not feel constricted. It feels very fulfilling.Posted by communicatorIt's like religion though, a means for you to be strapped down no matter if happy or not, people cannot and will not want to see you better them.Posted by TheCanBullIt's not proving, it's a choice for those of us who grew up in households where marriage values were instilled.
If you need to prove to someone your love through marriage, then she don't trust you, and she obviously does not love you as much as she thought she did.
Then again i'm completely different.
Ask those people who have been in a marriage and have had a rough escape for one or never got one...
Good luck.click to expand
Posted by communicatorGood choices but somewhat deluded with the marriage thing....Posted by MyStarsShineYes this world is full of all kinds. Sounds like you made some bad choices.
...and if you hadn't noticed, lots of men WAIT till they are married to have other womenclick to expand
Posted by TheCanBull
If your love for the other is so significant he or she will know that and they won't question you or even bring up marriage unless it's something they mention would be nice in the future, but are not ready to do that so soon.
This allows growth, and anything that could come between you won't be held down by marriage.
Posted by TheCanBull
I can understand if the death of the person you loved dearly has caused some bitterness, i lost mine too we were not married though.
This topic was about marriage, not the death of your loved one.
Posted by TheCanBull
I know i am 26, why do you keep hiding posts where you are biting at me?
I am actually trying to level with you on the hurt part... your sensitivity then insensitivity is rather odd.
I am just sharing a point of view that people don't need to be in a marriage to see the good and bad from it, we see plenty of the good, but the bad is aired about much more because it affects people's lives far more.
I mean do you see many people here saying how great their marriage is? well no because they usually don't want to be called out for bragging etc.
Yes i am 26, don't let it fool you.
Posted by communicatorPosted by TheCanBull
If your love for the other is so significant he or she will know that and they won't question you or even bring up marriage unless it's something they mention would be nice in the future, but are not ready to do that so soon.
This allows growth, and anything that could come between you won't be held down by marriage.
42% of African-American women have not been married.
3 out of 4 African-American children are born out of wedlock.. So 75% of African American children are born out of wedlock. Those stats are staggering. But there is no law that says you have to marry. So obviously the rules change from culture to culture, but for those of us raised in two-parent homes marriage is very honorable.click to expand
Posted by communicator
for those of us raised in two-parent homes marriage is very honorable.
Posted by MyStarsShineYeah I don't fool with guys of such low caliber so I wouldn't know. In my circle of friends marriage means commitment.
Marrying someone does not guarantee monogamy.....anyone that believes that is clueless
*I do* sometimes means *I am not sure* or *I don't*
Posted by P-AngelRight, I started this thread because my female best friend called crying over her boyfriend not spending Xmas with her. Instead he spent it with another woman. She was shocked her "boyfriend" not husband had another woman. I was shocked that she was shocked. A decent man will hide it he posted the picture on Facebook. She was in tears for hours.
Though, I don't believe that having a marriage certificate is the only way two people can commit to each to each other ... I do believe the general concept of the point here.
If a guy isn't committed to you, and is just a boyfriend, especially an ldr or cyber boyfriend ... then he's most likely entertaining the attentions of others.
Most women seem oblivious to this, and are so naïve that they will blindly believe any words of con given to them by a guy they like.
So, the general message is correct in my perception ... in that if he's not committed to you, don't be so gullible because he's actually still single.
Posted by sagsagsagSag, it's the way it is; women are oblivious to this; but the one female who a guy is into - who has the balls to say " I am single and will date until we are married" is the female in my circle of friends who ends up catching the guy. Men HATE IT WHEN ANOTHER MAN COMES ON THE SCENE. But if a chick is offering sex and monogamy without a ring, why bother?Posted by communicator
I am in awe at the naivety of my female friends. Boyfriend does not mean exclusive monogamous relationship that's called marriage! A verbal understanding is only to make you feel better about having sex with a single man. The federal government refers to an unmarried man as single. Therefore a single man is under no obligation to you. However Men will tell you what you want to hear if that means we get sex.
The wife gets the commitment, not the girlfriend! Girlfriend does not have the same ranking as a wife. When an unmarried woman says the unmarried guy is "cheating" that is ridiculous. Expect an unmarried single man to have other women.
Until you are his wife he is under no obligation to be faithful. And until you are the wife I suggest you don't offer monogamy. Tell him you will stop seeing other men when you are married, until then, like him, you are single. That's the quickest way to be the wife. Women commit to us after a couple of months of pretty words and dinners. If you are already monogamous with us, what will be the reason to marry you?????
LOL..
I like your logic.. ?
So your girlfriend can also see other guys? Or that rule only apply to men?click to expand
Posted by ChoXtsyI don't associate with people who violate the sacredness of marriage; however different races and different class levels feel differently about marriage. Especially if they were raised in a single parent home without role models to represent a healthy marriage.
Marriage doesn't necessarily mean exclusive monogamous relationship. There are many people in open marriages and relationships.
Posted by ExplicitAll I have to say is that you are 23.
Damn. If the DXP Awards didn't already happen this would have got "dumbest thread."
Posted by ChoXtsy...and as I said before.....quite a few men wait until they are in the restrictive environment of marriage to cheat
Marriage doesn't necessarily mean exclusive monogamous relationship. There are many people in open marriages and relationships.
Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by communicatorCheating is considered cheating after marriage, a single man sees himself as unmarried meaning he can continue to date until he finds the woman he loves enough to tell the world he is officially off the market.
I am in awe at the naivety of my female friends. Boyfriend does not mean exclusive monogamous relationship that's called marriage! A verbal understanding is only to make you feel better about having sex with a single man. The federal government refers to an unmarried man as single. Therefore a single man is under no obligation to you. However Men will tell you what you want to hear if that means we get sex.
The wife gets the commitment, not the girlfriend! Girlfriend does not have the same ranking as a wife. When an unmarried woman says the unmarried guy is "cheating" that is ridiculous. Expect an unmarried single man to have other women.
Until you are his wife he is under no obligation to be faithful. And until you are the wife I suggest you don't offer monogamy. Tell him you will stop seeing other men when you are married, until then, like him, you are single. That's the quickest way to be the wife. Women commit to us after a couple of months of pretty words and dinners. If you are already monogamous with us, what will be the reason to marry you?????
But keep on living in your fantasy world. This is exactly why a highly intelligent women can end up being the side chick. You are so busy using logic that you don't understand men on a basic level. Your arguments are futile against testosterone! Wake up lady!click to expand
Posted by ScufflesPerhaps you come from a socioeconomic class that does not value marriage, you are entitled to your thoughts. But understand this....when a real man loves you, he will marry you. Period! If you don't value marriage, great.. you will be the perfect side chick.Posted by communicatorMonogamy is meaningful.
I am in awe at the naivety of my female friends. Boyfriend does not mean exclusive monogamous relationship that's called marriage! A verbal understanding is only to make you feel better about having sex with a single man. The federal government refers to an unmarried man as single. Therefore a single man is under no obligation to you. However Men will tell you what you want to hear if that means we get sex.
The wife gets the commitment, not the girlfriend! Girlfriend does not have the same ranking as a wife. When an unmarried woman says the unmarried guy is "cheating" that is ridiculous. Expect an unmarried single man to have other women.
Until you are his wife he is under no obligation to be faithful. And until you are the wife I suggest you don't offer monogamy. Tell him you will stop seeing other men when you are married, until then, like him, you are single. That's the quickest way to be the wife. Women commit to us after a couple of months of pretty words and dinners. If you are already monogamous with us, what will be the reason to marry you?????
"Loyalty.” “Trust.” “Fidelity.” “Honor.” “Respect.”
These are all just words until your actions either give them power and importance or deflate them. Monogamy isn’t meaningful because the "church or government says so" and it isn’t meaningful because you wore a pouffy white dress/crisp tux and said you wanted it to be meaningful (i.e. marriage). Rather, monogamy’s meaning expands with each day that you and your partner commit to it. And that’s some pretty powerful stuff.click to expand
Posted by TheCanBullOkay 26 year old.Posted by communicatorThe issues here is that you are fighting something that you know is true but want to resent it, something has triggered you to come here and open a thread like this labelling everyone who is not married.Posted by TheCanBull
I know i am 26, why do you keep hiding posts where you are biting at me?
I am actually trying to level with you on the hurt part... your sensitivity then insensitivity is rather odd.
I am just sharing a point of view that people don't need to be in a marriage to see the good and bad from it, we see plenty of the good, but the bad is aired about much more because it affects people's lives far more.
I mean do you see many people here saying how great their marriage is? well no because they usually don't want to be called out for bragging etc.
Yes i am 26, don't let it fool you.
For some reason my autocorrect is not working, I hid the comments because I had misspelled words. I am not biting at you, your views of marriage fit with your background, and age. You are entitled to it, but you are 26. So...enough said. LOL
Your quote before was fully coherent and did not need deleting. Scared of showing your true self?
I see you don't worry. And do continue to mention my age, it makes me feel even better.click to expand
Posted by communicatorPosted by ScufflesPerhaps you come from a socioeconomic class that does not value marriage, you are entitled to your thoughts. But understand this....when a real man loves you, he will marry you. Period! If you don't value marriage, great.. you will be the perfect side chick.Posted by communicatorMonogamy is meaningful.
I am in awe at the naivety of my female friends. Boyfriend does not mean exclusive monogamous relationship that's called marriage! A verbal understanding is only to make you feel better about having sex with a single man. The federal government refers to an unmarried man as single. Therefore a single man is under no obligation to you. However Men will tell you what you want to hear if that means we get sex.
The wife gets the commitment, not the girlfriend! Girlfriend does not have the same ranking as a wife. When an unmarried woman says the unmarried guy is "cheating" that is ridiculous. Expect an unmarried single man to have other women.
Until you are his wife he is under no obligation to be faithful. And until you are the wife I suggest you don't offer monogamy. Tell him you will stop seeing other men when you are married, until then, like him, you are single. That's the quickest way to be the wife. Women commit to us after a couple of months of pretty words and dinners. If you are already monogamous with us, what will be the reason to marry you?????
"Loyalty.” “Trust.” “Fidelity.” “Honor.” “Respect.”
These are all just words until your actions either give them power and importance or deflate them. Monogamy isn’t meaningful because the "church or government says so" and it isn’t meaningful because you wore a pouffy white dress/crisp tux and said you wanted it to be meaningful (i.e. marriage). Rather, monogamy’s meaning expands with each day that you and your partner commit to it. And that’s some pretty powerful stuff.click to expand
Posted by AUniqueAndSpecialSnowflakeOkay Snowflake. LOLPosted by ExplicitHe would be in tough competition with Gemitati, but I might give his thread the edge. Only because delusional woman are some what entertaining. Delusional men are just sad.
Damn. If the DXP Awards didn't already happen this would have got "dumbest thread."click to expand
Posted by ChoXtsyAnd that is exactly where they will go "Back to their wives" Say what you will, when a man loves you he will marry you. Period...Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by ChoXtsy...and as I said before.....quite a few men wait until they are in the restrictive environment of marriage to cheat
Marriage doesn't necessarily mean exclusive monogamous relationship. There are many people in open marriages and relationships.
I see lots of them out on the town.....two brothers my friend and I met were on the of pull....married as feck and I just laughed at them and told them "go back to your wives"
Exactly. I see this all the time.click to expand
Posted by MyStarsShineI don't know where you live, or the people with whom you associate but it's sad that you attract that to you. I myself haven't experienced that with my group of friends, community and environment.Posted by communicatorPosted by ScufflesPerhaps you come from a socioeconomic class that does not value marriage, you are entitled to your thoughts. But understand this....when a real man loves you, he will marry you. Period! If you don't value marriage, great.. you will be the perfect side chick.Posted by communicatorMonogamy is meaningful.
I am in awe at the naivety of my female friends. Boyfriend does not mean exclusive monogamous relationship that's called marriage! A verbal understanding is only to make you feel better about having sex with a single man. The federal government refers to an unmarried man as single. Therefore a single man is under no obligation to you. However Men will tell you what you want to hear if that means we get sex.
The wife gets the commitment, not the girlfriend! Girlfriend does not have the same ranking as a wife. When an unmarried woman says the unmarried guy is "cheating" that is ridiculous. Expect an unmarried single man to have other women.
Until you are his wife he is under no obligation to be faithful. And until you are the wife I suggest you don't offer monogamy. Tell him you will stop seeing other men when you are married, until then, like him, you are single. That's the quickest way to be the wife. Women commit to us after a couple of months of pretty words and dinners. If you are already monogamous with us, what will be the reason to marry you?????
"Loyalty.” “Trust.” “Fidelity.” “Honor.” “Respect.”
These are all just words until your actions either give them power and importance or deflate them. Monogamy isn’t meaningful because the "church or government says so" and it isn’t meaningful because you wore a pouffy white dress/crisp tux and said you wanted it to be meaningful (i.e. marriage). Rather, monogamy’s meaning expands with each day that you and your partner commit to it. And that’s some pretty powerful stuff.
And I have heard men from all races and classes claim they love their wives even though they are screwing other women
Lolclick to expand
Posted by julietteWhat is your name there are so many kids talking I can't see the adult. LOLPosted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by tizianiNah it's all good. I was just being a typical water sign and mirroring. I didn't like how black and white he was being. If I'm being honest I agree with you. No ones perfect.Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by communicatorPeople who don't cheat do it because of their own morals, not because of their relationship status in the government's eyes. The government is irrelevant. I think relationships are much stronger when couples don't cheat due to their own morals, not because of the rules associated to marriage. It's like you're saying the only thing that's stopping you from cheating is a piece of paper and that's pathetic.
I am in awe at the naivety of my female friends. Boyfriend does not mean exclusive monogamous relationship that's called marriage! A verbal understanding is only to make you feel better about having sex with a single man. The federal government refers to an unmarried man as single. Therefore a single man is under no obligation to you. However Men will tell you what you want to hear if that means we get sex.
The wife gets the commitment, not the girlfriend! Girlfriend does not have the same ranking as a wife. When an unmarried woman says the unmarried guy is "cheating" that is ridiculous. Expect an unmarried single man to have other women.
Until you are his wife he is under no obligation to be faithful. And until you are the wife I suggest you don't offer monogamy. Tell him you will stop seeing other men when you are married, until then, like him, you are single. That's the quickest way to be the wife. Women commit to us after a couple of months of pretty words and dinners. If you are already monogamous with us, what will be the reason to marry you?????
Everything about that Brendan Fraser video suggests differently to what you're saying though, in all seriousness. What you're saying sounds correct, about the moral integrity and character of a person, but how many people have really had their character tested before being married like they do during marriage? The law in some countries brings out conflict the likes of which neither partner had ever seen in the other before.
did you post your chart by now? i like you![]()
i can't even guess your age. you strike me as young but smart for your age.click to expand
Posted by ChoXtsyI really can't speak for those kinds of men as I said repeatedly. Perhaps those are the type of men you attract to you. But if a man loves you he will marry you! Period. Otherwise he is still single and you are one of many. I can't speak for low caliber men because I don't associate with them. Perhaps you should try to socialize with people with better morals. There are many many men who do not cheat.Posted by communicatorLol. Yeah back to his wife after cheating . Love and marriage does not mean he will faithful.Posted by ChoXtsyAnd that is exactly where they will go "Back to their wives" Say what you will, when a man loves you he will marry you. Period...Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by ChoXtsy...and as I said before.....quite a few men wait until they are in the restrictive environment of marriage to cheat
Marriage doesn't necessarily mean exclusive monogamous relationship. There are many people in open marriages and relationships.
I see lots of them out on the town.....two brothers my friend and I met were on the of pull....married as feck and I just laughed at them and told them "go back to your wives"
Exactly. I see this all the time.click to expand
Posted by ChoXtsyBecause this was the experience of the lady who posted this thread I tried to understand where she was coming from. But I don't associate with men from the gutter, so I don't know anything about that life. LOLPosted by communicatorLol. Yeah back to his wife after cheating . Love and marriage does not mean he will faithful.Posted by ChoXtsyAnd that is exactly where they will go "Back to their wives" Say what you will, when a man loves you he will marry you. Period...Posted by MyStarsShinePosted by ChoXtsy...and as I said before.....quite a few men wait until they are in the restrictive environment of marriage to cheat
Marriage doesn't necessarily mean exclusive monogamous relationship. There are many people in open marriages and relationships.
I see lots of them out on the town.....two brothers my friend and I met were on the of pull....married as feck and I just laughed at them and told them "go back to your wives"
Exactly. I see this all the time.click to expand
Posted by ImpulsvSorry to hear that high-quality men were not attracted to your mother.Posted by sagsagsagHilarious my mother is a wife n was cheated three times!!!Posted by LibramissPosted by sagsagsagLol. "Do you want to marry me because if you do I will not see other women anymore" "Oh I'm so excited to get married to you. Sounds like a dream."Posted by communicator
I am in awe at the naivety of my female friends. Boyfriend does not mean exclusive monogamous relationship that's called marriage! A verbal understanding is only to make you feel better about having sex with a single man. The federal government refers to an unmarried man as single. Therefore a single man is under no obligation to you. However Men will tell you what you want to hear if that means we get sex.
The wife gets the commitment, not the girlfriend! Girlfriend does not have the same ranking as a wife. When an unmarried woman says the unmarried guy is "cheating" that is ridiculous. Expect an unmarried single man to have other women.
Until you are his wife he is under no obligation to be faithful. And until you are the wife I suggest you don't offer monogamy. Tell him you will stop seeing other men when you are married, until then, like him, you are single. That's the quickest way to be the wife. Women commit to us after a couple of months of pretty words and dinners. If you are already monogamous with us, what will be the reason to marry you?????
LOL..
I like your logic.. ?
So your girlfriend can also see other guys? Or that rule only apply to men?![]()
Ooohh... that's the kind of marriage proposal I've always dreamed of! ?
*knock on wood*click to expand
Posted by LibramissAnother kid. LOLPosted by sagsagsagLol. "Do you want to marry me because if you do I will not see other women anymore" "Oh I'm so excited to get married to you. Sounds like a dream."Posted by communicator
I am in awe at the naivety of my female friends. Boyfriend does not mean exclusive monogamous relationship that's called marriage! A verbal understanding is only to make you feel better about having sex with a single man. The federal government refers to an unmarried man as single. Therefore a single man is under no obligation to you. However Men will tell you what you want to hear if that means we get sex.
The wife gets the commitment, not the girlfriend! Girlfriend does not have the same ranking as a wife. When an unmarried woman says the unmarried guy is "cheating" that is ridiculous. Expect an unmarried single man to have other women.
Until you are his wife he is under no obligation to be faithful. And until you are the wife I suggest you don't offer monogamy. Tell him you will stop seeing other men when you are married, until then, like him, you are single. That's the quickest way to be the wife. Women commit to us after a couple of months of pretty words and dinners. If you are already monogamous with us, what will be the reason to marry you?????
LOL..
I like your logic.. ?
So your girlfriend can also see other guys? Or that rule only apply to men?
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Posted by ImpulsvNo one mentioned power or wealth, I said high-quality.Posted by communicatorWell he is a cap bussiness manPosted by ImpulsvSorry to hear that high-quality men were not attracted to your mother.Posted by sagsagsagHilarious my mother is a wife n was cheated three times!!!Posted by LibramissPosted by sagsagsagLol. "Do you want to marry me because if you do I will not see other women anymore" "Oh I'm so excited to get married to you. Sounds like a dream."Posted by communicator
I am in awe at the naivety of my female friends. Boyfriend does not mean exclusive monogamous relationship that's called marriage! A verbal understanding is only to make you feel better about having sex with a single man. The federal government refers to an unmarried man as single. Therefore a single man is under no obligation to you. However Men will tell you what you want to hear if that means we get sex.
The wife gets the commitment, not the girlfriend! Girlfriend does not have the same ranking as a wife. When an unmarried woman says the unmarried guy is "cheating" that is ridiculous. Expect an unmarried single man to have other women.
Until you are his wife he is under no obligation to be faithful. And until you are the wife I suggest you don't offer monogamy. Tell him you will stop seeing other men when you are married, until then, like him, you are single. That's the quickest way to be the wife. Women commit to us after a couple of months of pretty words and dinners. If you are already monogamous with us, what will be the reason to marry you?????
LOL..
I like your logic.. ?
So your girlfriend can also see other guys? Or that rule only apply to men?![]()
Ooohh... that's the kind of marriage proposal I've always dreamed of! ?
*knock on wood*
But you know men with power cheat n women take it
But men with power or rich are not high quality for my standardclick to expand
Posted by ImpulsvIt's sad that you know people like that.
Some men may marry a submissive "wife" but know they'll
Turn the other check n continue to cheat
They know how to pick em
Means no more special than that gf
Posted by LuckyLibra979
Your the type of person I'd get a prenupt with
Posted by ImpulsvI don't know what community you live or your socioeconomic class level but there are many men high-quality men who do not cheat out there. Perhaps me with good morals may not be attracted to you, but I belong to associations filled with good loving husbands who do not cheat. All men are not bad and all men do not cheat. But if a man loves you, and he is a high-caliber man he will marry you. PERIOD
eitherway ur marriage clause is a lie
U might think u got a high quality guy but cheating behind ur back.
Wait until ur bible burts thinking u walked high n mighty to the marriage alter n five years later
U naive life ain't black n white
Posted by aquarius09EXACTLY!
I know what this guy is saying. Dating in the grand scheme of things is just playing house without a solid commitment. The guy puts in minor effort into it like buying you dinner or gifts to get laid. It reserves the woman/girl's loyalty to him and most times even something as precious as her prime years/youth for the period they are dating. She could've stayed single and kept her options open until the one guy offered her what she was looking for, given if she's looking for a solid commitment like marriage, children and all.
Marriage is a huge effort on a guy's part because no guy or rather most guys don't ideally want to get married. They want to enjoy their freedom and sleep with as many beautiful women as possible. And also, he doesn't enjoy spending a lot of cash on a ring, pre-wedding arrangements and whatnot.
Every time a guy wants to exclusively date me, I'm just laughing in my head because why the hell would I put myself on hold and play house with him for the moment while I pass by on other great guys, one of these could be the right guy who may offer me what I'm
Looking for.