The breakup. That escalated quickly...

This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by evermour on Thursday, May 16, 2013 and has 39 replies.
My scorpio finally called it quits after 2 months of being mopey and in his shell.
still wanted to be friends but needed time.
I found out he cheated within the last few weeks.
Confronted him,
Denial, turns himself into the victim again.
Lies, drama, lies.
Said never speak to him again/see him/ go to his house.
texts me later says he wants a gift he gave me back and some clothes he left
and hes coming friday to pick it up.
I dont want to see him, I dont want to look at him.
I do still want to be his friend eventually,
but I dont feel like I owe him being here.
Is it ok to ice out a scorpio?
because any calm conversation I try to have with him, he just twists it into a victimized fight.
From what you shared, it sounds like he is latching unto an emotionally and mentally exhaustive game of manipulation, possibly egotistical? It is not icing per se, and yes it is ok to walk away for your own sanity, no point allowing such an individual to put you in such a negative position anyways. Answer is yes.
Posted by evermour
My scorpio finally called it quits after 2 months ...........
I found out he cheated within the last few weeks.
..............................
Is it ok to ice out a scorpio?



Are you seriously asking if it's okay to stop talking to someone who cheated on you and dumped you?
Are you a Ram or a Lamb?
Where is the fire?
At this point he should be quaking in his boots because you just held a knife to his genitals.
Delete, ignore and run!

Posted by tiziani
"I don't want to see him but I still do want to be friends eventually"

^ Manipulation. If you're not good at it, don't do it. Otherwise this is what happens.


I was ok to be friends the whole time. I care enough about him.
But after the cheating thing, and how he tried to justify it...
I probably need some space too.
I DO need it.
Still care, want to be able to just hang out someday.
But hes still just trying to pick fights with me.
No manipulation.. It just hurts for him to try and fight and play tug of war with me.
I dont need it right now.. I have finals next week
Posted by xygeneration
Posted by evermour
My scorpio finally called it quits after 2 months of being mopey and in his shell.
still wanted to be friends but needed time.
I found out he cheated within the last few weeks.
Confronted him,
Denial, turns himself into the victim again.
Lies, drama, lies.
Said never speak to him again/see him/ go to his house.
texts me later says he wants a gift he gave me back and some clothes he left
and hes coming friday to pick it up.
I dont want to see him, I dont want to look at him.
I do still want to be his friend eventually,
but I dont feel like I owe him being here.
Is it ok to ice out a scorpio?
because any calm conversation I try to have with him, he just twists it into a victimized fight.




Yup. Apologizes and takes it right back? Dont say anything, let the guilt sink in deep. The more you talk, the more he'll find reasons to justify his actions.
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ahahaha oh he NEVER apologized. He made himself the victim again. but i sure hope realization kicks in
Posted by LunarMaiden
Posted by evermour
My scorpio finally called it quits after 2 months ...........
I found out he cheated within the last few weeks.
..............................
Is it ok to ice out a scorpio?



Are you seriously asking if it's okay to stop talking to someone who cheated on you and dumped you?
Are you a Ram or a Lamb?
Where is the fire?
At this point he should be quaking in his boots because you just held a knife to his genitals.
Delete, ignore and run!


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smile check plus
Wanting a gift back is a sign of an immature scorpio.
But, so too, is jumping in the sack with every girl that
comes along, a sign of immaturity.
Mr.Firebird- Yeah he was emotionally immature during the whole relationship.. I just thought logical and clear communication would be enough to level it all out.
Posted by xygeneration
Ugh. post fail.
Dont bank on him realizing anything. The ego takes up a lot of space.


Hes leo moon and ascending.... OH YEAH his ego takes up alot of space.
Posted by djbuck1
Posted by LunarMaiden
Posted by evermour
My scorpio finally called it quits after 2 months ...........
I found out he cheated within the last few weeks.
..............................
Is it ok to ice out a scorpio?



Are you seriously asking if it's okay to stop talking to someone who cheated on you and dumped you?
Are you a Ram or a Lamb?
Where is the fire?
At this point he should be quaking in his boots because you just held a knife to his genitals.
Delete, ignore and run!





I guess I'm too old to be on here. It seems like today that sex is just . . . like a meal you share.
smh If my woman cheated on me, she would be dead in my eyes.
But I'm just an old fuddy-dud.
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how old are ya, djbuck???
Posted by xygeneration
Posted by evermour
Mr.Firebird- Yeah he was emotionally immature during the whole relationship.. I just thought logical and clear communication would be enough to level it all out.


Lol. How does he react?

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Well the most recent time incoherent screaming.
Usually gets quiet and shuts down. or Plays the victim.

gee, the last 9 months have sure been alot of fun.
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by djbuck1
Posted by LunarMaiden
Posted by evermour
My scorpio finally called it quits after 2 months ...........
I found out he cheated within the last few weeks.
..............................
Is it ok to ice out a scorpio?



Are you seriously asking if it's okay to stop talking to someone who cheated on you and dumped you?
Are you a Ram or a Lamb?
Where is the fire?
At this point he should be quaking in his boots because you just held a knife to his genitals.
Delete, ignore and run!





I guess I'm too old to be on here. It seems like today that sex is just . . . like a meal you share.
smh If my woman cheated on me, she would be dead in my eyes.
But I'm just an old fuddy-dud.


how old are ya, djbuck???
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Dude is probably 24. smh
+1 on the dead in my eyes comment though
How old are you guys evermore?How long did the relationship last?
hahaha xygen, I dont know and at this point my hooves are clickin to head on to different pastures..
Ive had enough trying to decipher and analyze his actions.
Honestly Id probably try to "fix" this but I cannot and will not allow someone to treat me this way.
Got to keep some self respect
Immature + Egotistical = Move on out...STAT!
Bad, very bad. You might not see it as manipulative games, trust us Scorps, it could very well turn into one and it would never end nice, never. One word-------
RUN
Posted by tiziani
Posted by evermour
Posted by tiziani
"I don't want to see him but I still do want to be friends eventually"

^ Manipulation. If you're not good at it, don't do it. Otherwise this is what happens.


I was ok to be friends the whole time. I care enough about him.
But after the cheating thing, and how he tried to justify it...
I probably need some space too.
I DO need it.
Still care, want to be able to just hang out someday.
But hes still just trying to pick fights with me.
No manipulation.. It just hurts for him to try and fight and play tug of war with me.
I dont need it right now.. I have finals next week



Sorry that "manipulation" is such a dirty word around here but that is what you're doing. Plea bargaining for a new relationship with the guy whilst asking him to accept responsibility for the fact that it's over.
Which one is it? That you identify yourself as someone who's friends stay loyal to them? Or that this is how you would like to be treated and see a future in it?
It would be emotional mature to accept his behaviour towards you for what it is and either decide whether it's over or not. The half and half stuff is plea bargaining. People do it to avoid a loss they see coming. I do too, even if I try to do so less and less nowadays.
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I guess im confused?
He broke up with me so I assume he has already accept responsibility for the fact that its over.
I accept that its over..
and could accept the new boundaries of friendship. and have once before before HE broke them.
But now. never again. Truly feel confident. Cant hold a grudge just need to get the pictures of what he did out of my mind.. and then friendship.
I guess it doesnt give me anything to be his friend..
I just care too much. He doesnt have any friends. and never goes outside. so i worry about him.
Posted by TheLadyScorpio
Immature + Egotistical = Move on out...STAT!
Bad, very bad. You might not see it as manipulative games, trust us Scorps, it could very well turn into one and it would never end nice, never. One word-------
RUN


He's been playing games from the minute he fell in love with me.
Immature+ Egotistical+ Insecure
Posted by djbuck1
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by djbuck1
Posted by LunarMaiden
Posted by evermour
My scorpio finally called it quits after 2 months ...........
I found out he cheated within the last few weeks.
..............................
Is it ok to ice out a scorpio?



Are you seriously asking if it's okay to stop talking to someone who cheated on you and dumped you?
Are you a Ram or a Lamb?
Where is the fire?
At this point he should be quaking in his boots because you just held a knife to his genitals.
Delete, ignore and run!





I guess I'm too old to be on here. It seems like today that sex is just . . . like a meal you share.
smh If my woman cheated on me, she would be dead in my eyes.
But I'm just an old fuddy-dud.


how old are ya, djbuck???


Three years older than dirt Firebird, and certainly old enough to be her father. My avatar is pretty accurate age-wise, though my Blues never looked that good on me!
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Dirt's not that old. Of course, you know... Duke's blues only looked that good because he was a propaganda puppet.
Come now, how old are ya?
Posted by djbuck1
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by djbuck1
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by djbuck1
Posted by LunarMaiden
Posted by evermour
My scorpio finally called it quits after 2 months ...........
I found out he cheated within the last few weeks.
..............................
Is it ok to ice out a scorpio?



Are you seriously asking if it's okay to stop talking to someone who cheated on you and dumped you?
Are you a Ram or a Lamb?
Where is the fire?
At this point he should be quaking in his boots because you just held a knife to his genitals.
Delete, ignore and run!





I guess I'm too old to be on here. It seems like today that sex is just . . . like a meal you share.
smh If my woman cheated on me, she would be dead in my eyes.
But I'm just an old fuddy-dud.


how old are ya, djbuck???


Three years older than dirt Firebird, and certainly old enough to be her father. My avatar is pretty accurate age-wise, though my Blues never looked that good on me!


Dirt's not that old. Of course, you know... Duke's blues only looked that good because he was a propaganda puppet.
Come now, how old are ya?


Maybe we should start a poll. Go look at my pic.
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^ Grandchild?
Posted by tiziani
It's good to care but that doesn't make you his friend. Be careful about throwing the friend word around because it actually involves accepting someone for who they are right now, not who they could be.
"I accept that its over..
and could accept the new boundaries of friendship. and have once before before HE broke them."
^Reminds me of someone I once heard from 50 cent of all people
"I don't try and patch relationships because - when they fall apart and you have no idea what you did for them to be over - that means you wouldn't even have to be involved for them to fall apart all over again."


HAHAHA thats why we need to be broken up.
And I do accept him.. When I found out about his immature bullshit he was pulling before the break up, I was sad, mad, and then accepted it at lightening speed.
I even told him. "call me, Im not mad, I still want to be your friend"
I think how calm I was about it is what enraged him even more...
Posted by xygeneration
OH POOR HIM. YOU MIGHT AS WELL CUT HIS BALLS AND YOU WEAR IT.
He didnt give a shit about you. if you decide to keep him as a friend, keep him at arms length.



hahaha Ive already have them, and theyre raisins sooo no thanks.
well yeah. Im not letting him get his claws around me again
Posted by leoliza
Posted by evermour
Posted by TheLadyScorpio
Immature + Egotistical = Move on out...STAT!
Bad, very bad. You might not see it as manipulative games, trust us Scorps, it could very well turn into one and it would never end nice, never. One word-------
RUN


He's been playing games from the minute he fell in love with me.
Immature+ Egotistical+ Insecure


No offense, but this isn't what love looks like.
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Every day that passes, the more I see that
Posted by Nemesis
Posted by evermour
Posted by tiziani
It's good to care but that doesn't make you his friend. Be careful about throwing the friend word around because it actually involves accepting someone for who they are right now, not who they could be.
"I accept that its over..
and could accept the new boundaries of friendship. and have once before before HE broke them."
^Reminds me of someone I once heard from 50 cent of all people
"I don't try and patch relationships because - when they fall apart and you have no idea what you did for them to be over - that means you wouldn't even have to be involved for them to fall apart all over again."


HAHAHA thats why we need to be broken up.
And I do accept him.. When I found out about his immature bullshit he was pulling before the break up, I was sad, mad, and then accepted it at lightening speed.
I even told him. "call me, Im not mad, I still want to be your friend"
I think how calm I was about it is what enraged him even more...



thing is, you might be on that level of being able to be friends - don??t think scorpy is there yet....it??s misleading. i hate/love you kind of thing. ambivalent. ground for a lot of unexpected emotions.
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Yeah, well as far as I know, he doesnt even want to be friends anymore.. after I cronfronted him.
he has no friends because they hate him; and ostrasized him soon after I started seeing him.. He cried.
But yeah I see what youre saying.
He can handle being lonely
Posted by xygeneration
its going to look like you're the clinger and once he finds a fuck buddy or a gf he'll say you're the crazy one who wont leave his ass alone.


I doubt it. Ill probably have a bf or just not care by then.
Posted by evermour
Posted by xygeneration
its going to look like you're the clinger and once he finds a fuck buddy or a gf he'll say you're the crazy one who wont leave his ass alone.


I doubt it. Ill probably have a bf or just not care by then.
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You see, that is what he was, probably, foreseeing, ALREADY.
A Scorpio man can see things far ahead. Whereas he may be immature in one area, he may be quite developed in
another.
Posted by tiziani
Posted by evermour
Posted by tiziani
"I don't want to see him but I still do want to be friends eventually"

^ Manipulation. If you're not good at it, don't do it. Otherwise this is what happens.


I was ok to be friends the whole time. I care enough about him.
But after the cheating thing, and how he tried to justify it...
I probably need some space too.
I DO need it.
Still care, want to be able to just hang out someday.
But hes still just trying to pick fights with me.
No manipulation.. It just hurts for him to try and fight and play tug of war with me.
I dont need it right now.. I have finals next week



Sorry that "manipulation" is such a dirty word around here but that is what you're doing. Plea bargaining for a new relationship with the guy whilst asking him to accept responsibility for the fact that it's over.
Which one is it? That you identify yourself as someone who's friends stay loyal to them? Or that this is how you would like to be treated and see a future in it?
It would be emotional mature to accept his behaviour towards you for what it is and either decide whether it's over or not. The half and half stuff is plea bargaining. People do it to avoid a loss they see coming.
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+1
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by evermour
Posted by xygeneration
its going to look like you're the clinger and once he finds a fuck buddy or a gf he'll say you're the crazy one who wont leave his ass alone.


I doubt it. Ill probably have a bf or just not care by then.


You see, that is what he was, probably, foreseeing, ALREADY.
A Scorpio man can see things far ahead. Whereas he may be immature in one area, he may be quite developed in
another.

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Well when he broke up, I told him id wait for him. that i was still his.
When i found out he cheated... that offer was off the table.
and yeah I'll probably care when he finds a gf or something..
but by then I'll have already come to terms with everything.
it doesnt take clairvoyance, its just common sense.
Im not going to pine away for someone who doesnt deserve it.
Posted by CluelessCancer
Wait he cheated on you and you still want to be friends? Call me clueless, how is that possible?


I was not without fault.
he cheated when the relationship was falling apart
I can understand to a fault.
So whatever.. Honestly it was the best thing he could have done.
Im free of ever worrying about "what it" we got together.
now that I know that is never going to happen.
I can be friends
cuz all things aside. His loss. I just like being around him, he was a friend. And im willing to extend that friendship
Posted by LIBRA1234
Why do u want him as a friend? U should kick him out of his life completely. He was not nice to u, why do u want to have something toxic around. I would completely understand if he was nice to u and respected u as a friend, and u want to keep that, but your situation is different. He is not your friend, he is a douche


HAHH thank you.
youre right. I need to stop bellying over.
Posted by evermour
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by evermour
Posted by xygeneration
its going to look like you're the clinger and once he finds a fuck buddy or a gf he'll say you're the crazy one who wont leave his ass alone.


I doubt it. Ill probably have a bf or just not care by then.


You see, that is what he was, probably, foreseeing, ALREADY.
A Scorpio man can see things far ahead. Whereas he may be immature in one area, he may be quite developed in
another.



Well when he broke up, I told him id wait for him. that i was still his.
When i found out he cheated... that offer was off the table.
and yeah I'll probably care when he finds a gf or something..
but by then I'll have already come to terms with everything.
it doesnt take clairvoyance, its just common sense.
Im not going to pine away for someone who doesnt deserve it.
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I think you may have misunderstood. My bad for not clarifying. (was also writing elsewhere)
What I am saying to you is that some men are able to see so far ahead, in advance that the woman
would think he is crazy. Then... one day... it turns out to be true.
That's not to justify his cheating on you, but may explain why he didn't take you seriously.
You may have said or done something while you two were together, or, perhaps..., even before you
two became intimate. On the other hand... he may be one of those Scorpios who has written off
serious commitments altogether, for whatever reason.
Posted by IntriguedScorp
I know you probably won't want to hear this, but I HIGHLY doubt it escalated quickly. From what I remember about your story, you did something that let the Scorp feel betrayed, right? Go back to that moment and recall everything this guy has said since then. Within it all you will see that he has been slowly letting you go. However, at one point, well HEY you gatta either shit or get off the pot so he's doing that and now it seems "quick." Just saying.
Carry on...


Yeah I definitely felt him pulling away. He agreed he wanted to work through it so i just ignored his moodiness and just tried to maintain a loving, optimistic attitude.
It obviously wasnt enough
this is basically why im not too pissed he cheated in the last few weeks.
You act out, revenge? lack of caring?
whatever the case. the only thing that escalated was his temper once i confronted him about cheating
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by evermour
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by evermour
Posted by xygeneration
its going to look like you're the clinger and once he finds a fuck buddy or a gf he'll say you're the crazy one who wont leave his ass alone.


I doubt it. Ill probably have a bf or just not care by then.


You see, that is what he was, probably, foreseeing, ALREADY.
A Scorpio man can see things far ahead. Whereas he may be immature in one area, he may be quite developed in
another.



Well when he broke up, I told him id wait for him. that i was still his.
When i found out he cheated... that offer was off the table.
and yeah I'll probably care when he finds a gf or something..
but by then I'll have already come to terms with everything.
it doesnt take clairvoyance, its just common sense.
Im not going to pine away for someone who doesnt deserve it.



I think you may have misunderstood. My bad for not clarifying. (was also writing elsewhere)
What I am saying to you is that some men are able to see so far ahead, in advance that the woman
would think he is crazy. Then... one day... it turns out to be true.
That's not to justify his cheating on you, but may explain why he didn't take you seriously.
You may have said or done something while you two were together, or, perhaps..., even before you
two became intimate. On the other hand... he may be one of those Scorpios who has written off
serious commitments altogether, for whatever reason.

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He was serious. But super insecure possessive sensitive and egotistical.
I tried to compromise and accommodate him but it just wasnt enough in the end.
So by the falling out he didnt care too much about keeping fidelity.
I understand, but he's blowing up over it.. Im very confused.
Posted by CluelessCancer
Posted by LunarMaiden
Posted by evermour
My scorpio finally called it quits after 2 months ...........
I found out he cheated within the last few weeks.
..............................
Is it ok to ice out a scorpio?



Are you seriously asking if it's okay to stop talking to someone who cheated on you and dumped you?
Are you a Ram or a Lamb?
Where is the fire?
At this point he should be quaking in his boots because you just held a knife to his genitals.
Delete, ignore and run!




Damn! the Ram looks weak. Thank god we got killers in our zodiac, cause I aint no punk man. I will shred your balls for breakfast.
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I guess we Crabs can't see why she's still holding on.
But based on my reading on astrology, fire/air signs don't place as much importance on infidelity/cheating as water/earth do.
We are more likely to go Lorena Bobbitt.
Lorena Bobbitt is a Scorpio (born on Halloween), her abusive cheating husband an Aries 3/23.
He cheated on you? And he expects anything from you? Good for girl fuck that jackass
Posted by evermour
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by evermour
Posted by MrFirebird
Posted by evermour
Posted by xygeneration
its going to look like you're the clinger and once he finds a fuck buddy or a gf he'll say you're the crazy one who wont leave his ass alone.


I doubt it. Ill probably have a bf or just not care by then.


You see, that is what he was, probably, foreseeing, ALREADY.
A Scorpio man can see things far ahead. Whereas he may be immature in one area, he may be quite developed in
another.



Well when he broke up, I told him id wait for him. that i was still his.
When i found out he cheated... that offer was off the table.
and yeah I'll probably care when he finds a gf or something..
but by then I'll have already come to terms with everything.
it doesnt take clairvoyance, its just common sense.
Im not going to pine away for someone who doesnt deserve it.



I think you may have misunderstood. My bad for not clarifying. (was also writing elsewhere)
What I am saying to you is that some men are able to see so far ahead, in advance that the woman
would think he is crazy. Then... one day... it turns out to be true.
That's not to justify his cheating on you, but may explain why he didn't take you seriously.
You may have said or done something while you two were together, or, perhaps..., even before you
two became intimate. On the other hand... he may be one of those Scorpios who has written off
serious commitments altogether, for whatever reason.




He was serious. But super insecure possessive sensitive and egotistical.
I tried to compromise and accommodate him but it just wasnt enough in the end.
So by the falling out he didnt care too much about keeping fidelity.
I understand, but he's blowing up over it.. Im very confused.
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IMHO, Let go, forget about any friendship and move on.
xxnight--

Le sigh.... Too true. I miss him all the time. I have no idea why, but it gets a little easier every day.
and right on schedule am trying to find someone to "fill the void"
if only men weren't so readily available!
and yeah, c'est la vie. Im sure he'll come around, Im actually scared for it.
Geminicandle-
I found a taurus- aries cusp. And he's a real sweety.
Not going for a relationship.. just someone nice to be around.
howso? smile