Virgo Sun+Moon man, I don't know what to do
I have been friends with him for 4 years now. I always thought of him as platonic and nothing more. But I do remember him trying to get close to me and telling me I'm cute which I brushed off since I didn't think of him in that way at all. Fast forward 2 ...
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Posted by Gem03Says you. I am overly emotional, super sensitive, got married at 20 (still married) and it took me until my 30's to discover how strong willed I can be. But since I'm a Gemini and older and want to live a more peaceful life, I usually give in or just change my mind. I've got a Virgo moon.Posted by virgoOPPP
virgo moon?
eww
From my experience, all earth moons are ew. They are closed off emotionally, move at a slowwww pace and are stubbornclick to expand
You must be thinking of aqua and taurus moons.
My brother is a virgo sun/moon/mercury. He's been one of the dumbest men I've ever known. Made some real dumb ass mistakes. Stayed married to an abusive bitch for 20 years. Took her back, made excuses for her. Stupid, dumb, stupid dumbass. Don't expect much from a character like this.
I agree with you on the no cooking thing.
If I ever decide to get married, that’s when I will hit the kitchen
That way the hubby feels special
If I ever decide to get married, that’s when I will hit the kitchen
That way the hubby feels special
Posted by Arinoaqua
Virgos are really not that difficult. The problem is you’re passively pursuing him. After every kiss and cuddle “what are we?” “Are we dating now?”
Don’t ever got damn ask a man “what are we?” They need to be asking you that. Let a man pursue you. You just be amazing. No man is so passive that they need you to do the leg work for them.
See the issue is I have been patient for 7 months...I didn't push at all. I am passive, but now I have drawn some boundaries for myself. That is all.
We ended up FaceTiming on New Years Eve. He played his guitar for me and sang. He opened up about his past relationships (I didn't insist or even ask he just started talking about his past and other things). He told me how his ex (the one who ruined emotional intimacy for him) he was only with her for 2 months (in 2019) and that he was falling hard for her. She wanted to wait to have sex till marriage and even tho he is sexual he lived like a monk for the sake of being with her but she broke up with him then got with another guy in 2 days. He said it was "iffy on the cheating part but she was probably talking to him during our relationship". I said "No that is emotional cheating, if you are in a relationship why are you entertaining other people". He went on to say that his heart isn't closed off its just sleeping for now.
Posted by 81gemsI think people with virgo placements have a "devotion mode" hidden somewhere. Its not healthy by any means. But i have seen similar behavior esp when virgo placements are coupled with other earth placements....also yeah Im a lot more cautious now.
My brother is a virgo sun/moon/mercury. He's been one of the dumbest men I've ever known. Made some real dumb ass mistakes. Stayed married to an abusive bitch for 20 years. Took her back, made excuses for her. Stupid, dumb, stupid dumbass. Don't expect much from a character like this.
Posted by 81gemsNo, I should have clarified, I am talking about people with earth sun+moon signs....If one or the other is air/water/fire. There is some balance thats allPosted by Gem03Posted by virgoOPPP
virgo moon?
eww
From my experience, all earth moons are ew. They are closed off emotionally, move at a slowwww pace and are stubborn
Says you. I am overly emotional, super sensitive, got married at 20 (still married) and it took me until my 30's to discover how strong willed I can be. But since I'm a Gemini and older and want to live a more peaceful life, I usually give in or just change my mind. I've got a Virgo moon.
You must be thinking of aqua and taurus moons.click to expand
My Virgo says he hates wishy washy women. He wants women to tell him what they want from him and he has no patience for women who don't vocalize what they want. He has no problem putting women in the friend zone.
From him and other Virgo men I have met... that seems to be a theme. Like they are more then willing to accommodate but they need to know what is expected of them. However, once you're in the friend zone it seems to be very hard to get out of it.
Note: my Virgo in particular is used to women throwing themselves at him. So he has no problem saying no when he isn't interested.
From him and other Virgo men I have met... that seems to be a theme. Like they are more then willing to accommodate but they need to know what is expected of them. However, once you're in the friend zone it seems to be very hard to get out of it.
Note: my Virgo in particular is used to women throwing themselves at him. So he has no problem saying no when he isn't interested.
Posted by SeaLionYeah thats fair. But not much I can do when he doesn't want a relationship. Im 22 but I hate the talking stage, I hate the dating game as well. Its all BS!! Like dude you are either going to be with me or I'm going to stay single. Peace
My Virgo says he hates wishy washy women. He wants women to tell him what they want from him and he has no patience for women who don't vocalize what they want. He has no problem putting women in the friend zone.
From him and other Virgo men I have met... that seems to be a theme. Like they are more then willing to accommodate but they need to know what is expected of them. However, once you're in the friend zone it seems to be very hard to get out of it.
Note: my Virgo in particular is used to women throwing themselves at him. So he has no problem saying no when he isn't interested.
Posted by CreamyPV😂😂Posted by virgoOPPP
virgo moon?
eww
Harsh 🥺click to expand
Posted by CreamyPVI'm hoping the fact that he opened up a bit and still talks to me everyday is a good sign(?)....I hate uncertainty and games as well. What set me off is despite 7month talking stage he hadn't committed to me. Now I have said "Either I get all of you or I want no part of you" (I'm possessive I blame my mercury taurus+venus aries) bc my affection, my care and my attention are forms of investment. I don't want to waste it either, I was painstakingly patient for all those months.Posted by Gem03Posted by virgoOPPP
virgo moon?
eww
From my experience, all earth moons are ew. They are closed off emotionally, move at a slowwww pace and are stubborn
This is only true of Virgo moon when we feel insecure. We're risk adverse. You rejected him so many times he accepted it wasn't going to happen. Now you are interested and he needs time to adjust to the idea you are sincere and not going to just change your mind. Fickle affections scare the heck out of us. Even if we are flaky as hell, we desire decisive stable partners who know what they want from us, and make it clear we are their main choice. Don't ask him what he wants, tell him what you want. And then be patient,we move at a snail pace like Taurus. But once we're in, we are all in. But that will only happen if we are sure we aren't wasting our time investing our affection in someone unstable.
Also as a disclaimer I am speaking from a female position, but I also attract Virgo moon men, and they are similarly guarded until they know for certain my intentions are true.click to expand
Posted by CreamyPVI DMed youPosted by Gem03Posted by virgoOPPP
virgo moon?
eww
From my experience, all earth moons are ew. They are closed off emotionally, move at a slowwww pace and are stubborn
This is only true of Virgo moon when we feel insecure. We're risk adverse. You rejected him so many times he accepted it wasn't going to happen. Now you are interested and he needs time to adjust to the idea you are sincere and not going to just change your mind. Fickle affections scare the heck out of us. Even if we are flaky as hell, we desire decisive stable partners who know what they want from us, and make it clear we are their main choice. Don't ask him what he wants, tell him what you want. And then be patient,we move at a snail pace like Taurus. But once we're in, we are all in. But that will only happen if we are sure we aren't wasting our time investing our affection in someone unstable.
Also as a disclaimer I am speaking from a female position, but I also attract Virgo moon men, and they are similarly guarded until they know for certain my intentions are true.click to expand
I ignored him and then he bombarded me (I ignored him 4 times) in the same day about his new car. I responded after 3 hours. A week later he drove 30 miles to come see me on a weekday night. I was a bit distant and we didn't kiss (I wouldn't let him). We slept in the same bed. I woke up to him caressing my face in the middle of the night, staring at my face and we cuddled. Thats it, he went home next morning, he had work at 9am.
Ok but is he still using the excuse of his ex breaking his heart as a reason for him to play with yours?
We all have baggage. Its not fair to you to pay for the sins of his ex.
We all have baggage. Its not fair to you to pay for the sins of his ex.
I thank everyone for their advice on this saga, I removed him from everything. I didn’t have a conversation with him regarding it tho. But I know he would just be pissed off and tell me “I don’t want a relationship”. Im leaving quietly
Huge update: We ended up still staying friends then in late January 2021 he said he is ready to date and see if it could lead to a relationship. I said yes. Things went pretty well, we communicated i opened up to him. I wanted to be sure so I point blank asked him "Do you have genuine feelings for me? Do you want to be with me? Yes or no is fine, pls be honest". He said yes to both.
He said "I want to make you happy and smile", "Idea of getting into a relationship when you are young is scary. Especially with someone who you know it'll probably last with", "you more than cover affection for my heart". I assumed these were good things. March 15 he said he made up his mind and that he wants to make me his. I was super happy.
March 17 he took it back and said he's not ready, that he wants space. Also that "I genuinely wanted to make you happy but I wasn't happy I was irritated, we'll see how I feel after a while." I am giving him his space.
I found out that on March 22 he flew out to Miami with 3 female friends. He is posting on his snapchat story every 2 hours, so I see what's happening. None of it is over the line. But like what the heck?
He said "I want to make you happy and smile", "Idea of getting into a relationship when you are young is scary. Especially with someone who you know it'll probably last with", "you more than cover affection for my heart". I assumed these were good things. March 15 he said he made up his mind and that he wants to make me his. I was super happy.
March 17 he took it back and said he's not ready, that he wants space. Also that "I genuinely wanted to make you happy but I wasn't happy I was irritated, we'll see how I feel after a while." I am giving him his space.
I found out that on March 22 he flew out to Miami with 3 female friends. He is posting on his snapchat story every 2 hours, so I see what's happening. None of it is over the line. But like what the heck?
Virgo men please shed some light
Posted by Gem03
Virgo men please shed some light
This is what some Virgo men do for some reason. They see how much bullshit you will put up with, see if you will wait for them while they do what they want, and the one who waits for them wins because no one else will put up with it and stay. They try and put you through the ringer as a test to judge your loyalty.
You should leave him alone and do you, he clearly got an opportunity that he didn't want to pass up, so he changed his mind and bounced out to spring break for some fun.
He'll be back once things blow over with whoever he was liking, once they stop paying attention to him.
Virgo men get distracted easily by woman. They are the same as Leo men with wanting attention and wanting to be adored but at least Leo's are known for being loyal.
They want a women going bat shit crazy with jealousy for them while they do this sort of shit and if you don't, that means you don't care.
Virgo men live in the moment and take opportunities as they come, I find them to be very sneaky and manipulative, while seeming innocent.
They have the gift of gab just like a Gemini, and are smooth talkers who can get themselves out of any situation with their charm.
I still like them, I just can't hang with how attention seeking they are towards anyone showing them interest. I'm not jealous enough to compete.
Posted by saggurl88He has leo mars. But everything else is in Virgo.Posted by Gem03
Virgo men please shed some light
This is what some Virgo men do for some reason. They see how much bullshit you will put up with, see if you will wait for them while they do what they want, and the one who waits for them wins because no one else will put up with it and stay. They try and put you through the ringer as a test to judge your loyalty.
You should leave him alone and do you, he clearly got an opportunity that he didn't want to pass up, so he changed his mind and bounced out to spring break for some fun.
He'll be back once things blow over with whoever he was liking, once they stop paying attention to him.
Virgo men get distracted easily by woman. They are the same as Leo men with wanting attention and wanting to be adored but at least Leo's are known for being loyal.
They want a women going bat shit crazy with jealousy for them while they do this sort of shit and if you don't, that means you don't care.
Virgo men live in the moment and take opportunities as they come, I find them to be very sneaky and manipulative, while seeming innocent.
They have the gift of gab just like a Gemini, and are smooth talkers who can get themselves out of any situation with their charm.
I still like them, I just can't hang with how attention seeking they are towards anyone showing them interest. I'm not jealous enough to compete.click to expand
Thats what I'm thinking too...like in a span of 4 days he was in Miami...he definitely had to have talked to his friends. Arranged where they are staying, put in notice for work and so on. At the minimum he had to have been thinking about it for the last week.
Him and I had a thorough convo of what we are like in relationships, both of us are very very possessive of our SO. So there was no way I was going to let him go with 3 women while I'm his SO (same applies to me).
Posted by Gem03This is why Cancer and Aries women work best with them, because they fight for their men when they behave like this.Posted by saggurl88Posted by Gem03
Virgo men please shed some light
This is what some Virgo men do for some reason. They see how much bullshit you will put up with, see if you will wait for them while they do what they want, and the one who waits for them wins because no one else will put up with it and stay. They try and put you through the ringer as a test to judge your loyalty.
You should leave him alone and do you, he clearly got an opportunity that he didn't want to pass up, so he changed his mind and bounced out to spring break for some fun.
He'll be back once things blow over with whoever he was liking, once they stop paying attention to him.
Virgo men get distracted easily by woman. They are the same as Leo men with wanting attention and wanting to be adored but at least Leo's are known for being loyal.
They want a women going bat shit crazy with jealousy for them while they do this sort of shit and if you don't, that means you don't care.
Virgo men live in the moment and take opportunities as they come, I find them to be very sneaky and manipulative, while seeming innocent.
They have the gift of gab just like a Gemini, and are smooth talkers who can get themselves out of any situation with their charm.
I still like them, I just can't hang with how attention seeking they are towards anyone showing them interest. I'm not jealous enough to compete.
He has leo mars. But everything else is in Virgo.
Thats what I'm thinking too...like in a span of 4 days he was in Miami...he definitely had to have talked to his friends. Arranged where they are staying, put in notice for work and so on. At the minimum he had to have been thinking about it for the last week.
Him and I had a thorough convo of what we are like in relationships, both of us are very very possessive of our SO. So there was no way I was going to let him go with 3 women while I'm his SO (same applies to me).click to expand
I don't have time to run after community dick and try to make it mine.
Posted by saggurl88I am quiet for now but Im not letting it slide, thats for sure.Posted by Gem03Posted by saggurl88Posted by Gem03
Virgo men please shed some light
This is what some Virgo men do for some reason. They see how much bullshit you will put up with, see if you will wait for them while they do what they want, and the one who waits for them wins because no one else will put up with it and stay. They try and put you through the ringer as a test to judge your loyalty.
You should leave him alone and do you, he clearly got an opportunity that he didn't want to pass up, so he changed his mind and bounced out to spring break for some fun.
He'll be back once things blow over with whoever he was liking, once they stop paying attention to him.
Virgo men get distracted easily by woman. They are the same as Leo men with wanting attention and wanting to be adored but at least Leo's are known for being loyal.
They want a women going bat shit crazy with jealousy for them while they do this sort of shit and if you don't, that means you don't care.
Virgo men live in the moment and take opportunities as they come, I find them to be very sneaky and manipulative, while seeming innocent.
They have the gift of gab just like a Gemini, and are smooth talkers who can get themselves out of any situation with their charm.
I still like them, I just can't hang with how attention seeking they are towards anyone showing them interest. I'm not jealous enough to compete.
He has leo mars. But everything else is in Virgo.
Thats what I'm thinking too...like in a span of 4 days he was in Miami...he definitely had to have talked to his friends. Arranged where they are staying, put in notice for work and so on. At the minimum he had to have been thinking about it for the last week.
Him and I had a thorough convo of what we are like in relationships, both of us are very very possessive of our SO. So there was no way I was going to let him go with 3 women while I'm his SO (same applies to me).
This is why Cancer and Aries women work best with them, because they fight for their men when they behave like this.
I don't have time to run after community dick and try to make it mine.click to expand
"No, you can’t make me yours then take it all back after 2 days. Hop on a plane with only 3 other women to Miami exactly four days later and expect things to be okay between us. I'd fight for you but I won't chase after you." is what I plan on saying.
If his male friends were there I'd be like ok whatever. Its a group thing; he is extroverted and likes hanging out in groups. But its HIM and only 3 other women is not cool to me.
He doesn't know what he wants. That should be your cue to exit left
Posted by Gem03Well you can voice your opinion on it. But he broke up with you. Did what he wanted and even though you voice your displeasure, will come back and you will have open arms.Posted by saggurl88Posted by Gem03Posted by saggurl88Posted by Gem03
Virgo men please shed some light
This is what some Virgo men do for some reason. They see how much bullshit you will put up with, see if you will wait for them while they do what they want, and the one who waits for them wins because no one else will put up with it and stay. They try and put you through the ringer as a test to judge your loyalty.
You should leave him alone and do you, he clearly got an opportunity that he didn't want to pass up, so he changed his mind and bounced out to spring break for some fun.
He'll be back once things blow over with whoever he was liking, once they stop paying attention to him.
Virgo men get distracted easily by woman. They are the same as Leo men with wanting attention and wanting to be adored but at least Leo's are known for being loyal.
They want a women going bat shit crazy with jealousy for them while they do this sort of shit and if you don't, that means you don't care.
Virgo men live in the moment and take opportunities as they come, I find them to be very sneaky and manipulative, while seeming innocent.
They have the gift of gab just like a Gemini, and are smooth talkers who can get themselves out of any situation with their charm.
I still like them, I just can't hang with how attention seeking they are towards anyone showing them interest. I'm not jealous enough to compete.
He has leo mars. But everything else is in Virgo.
Thats what I'm thinking too...like in a span of 4 days he was in Miami...he definitely had to have talked to his friends. Arranged where they are staying, put in notice for work and so on. At the minimum he had to have been thinking about it for the last week.
Him and I had a thorough convo of what we are like in relationships, both of us are very very possessive of our SO. So there was no way I was going to let him go with 3 women while I'm his SO (same applies to me).
This is why Cancer and Aries women work best with them, because they fight for their men when they behave like this.
I don't have time to run after community dick and try to make it mine.
I am quiet for now but Im not letting it slide, thats for sure.
"No, you can’t make me yours then take it all back after 2 days. Hop on a plane with only 3 other women to Miami exactly four days later and expect things to be okay between us. I'd fight for you but I won't chase after you." is what I plan on saying.
If his male friends were there I'd be like ok whatever. Its a group thing; he is extroverted and likes hanging out in groups. But its HIM and only 3 other women is not cool to me.click to expand
So I’m not sure what the point is.
He may come back after the other women have stopped contacting or if you are more fun. You just can’t tell. It’s whoever has his attention, in his presence.
So the choice is yours on what you want to do.
Posted by saggurl88I don’t think I’ll have open arms this time lol. The sole reason Im giving him 3 weeks is because he gave me that much when I cut him off (impulsively) as well.Posted by Gem03Posted by saggurl88Posted by Gem03Posted by saggurl88Posted by Gem03
Virgo men please shed some light
This is what some Virgo men do for some reason. They see how much bullshit you will put up with, see if you will wait for them while they do what they want, and the one who waits for them wins because no one else will put up with it and stay. They try and put you through the ringer as a test to judge your loyalty.
You should leave him alone and do you, he clearly got an opportunity that he didn't want to pass up, so he changed his mind and bounced out to spring break for some fun.
He'll be back once things blow over with whoever he was liking, once they stop paying attention to him.
Virgo men get distracted easily by woman. They are the same as Leo men with wanting attention and wanting to be adored but at least Leo's are known for being loyal.
They want a women going bat shit crazy with jealousy for them while they do this sort of shit and if you don't, that means you don't care.
Virgo men live in the moment and take opportunities as they come, I find them to be very sneaky and manipulative, while seeming innocent.
They have the gift of gab just like a Gemini, and are smooth talkers who can get themselves out of any situation with their charm.
I still like them, I just can't hang with how attention seeking they are towards anyone showing them interest. I'm not jealous enough to compete.
He has leo mars. But everything else is in Virgo.
Thats what I'm thinking too...like in a span of 4 days he was in Miami...he definitely had to have talked to his friends. Arranged where they are staying, put in notice for work and so on. At the minimum he had to have been thinking about it for the last week.
Him and I had a thorough convo of what we are like in relationships, both of us are very very possessive of our SO. So there was no way I was going to let him go with 3 women while I'm his SO (same applies to me).
This is why Cancer and Aries women work best with them, because they fight for their men when they behave like this.
I don't have time to run after community dick and try to make it mine.
I am quiet for now but Im not letting it slide, thats for sure.
"No, you can’t make me yours then take it all back after 2 days. Hop on a plane with only 3 other women to Miami exactly four days later and expect things to be okay between us. I'd fight for you but I won't chase after you." is what I plan on saying.
If his male friends were there I'd be like ok whatever. Its a group thing; he is extroverted and likes hanging out in groups. But its HIM and only 3 other women is not cool to me.
Well you can voice your opinion on it. But he broke up with you. Did what he wanted and even though you voice your displeasure, will come back and you will have open arms.
So I’m not sure what the point is.
He may come back after the other women have stopped contacting or if you are more fun. You just can’t tell. It’s whoever has his attention, in his presence.
So the choice is yours on what you want to do.click to expand
I have a soft spot for him but there is only so much I can let slide. Really 4 days??? Not even a month??
Also the women he went with are his friends that much Im sure of. They aren’t random nor are they his exes
Posted by Gem03Well, honestly what you are about to say sounds hopeless. I do not think that possessiveness will work out here. Unbothered is the way to goPosted by saggurl88Posted by Gem03Posted by saggurl88Posted by Gem03
Virgo men please shed some light
This is what some Virgo men do for some reason. They see how much bullshit you will put up with, see if you will wait for them while they do what they want, and the one who waits for them wins because no one else will put up with it and stay. They try and put you through the ringer as a test to judge your loyalty.
You should leave him alone and do you, he clearly got an opportunity that he didn't want to pass up, so he changed his mind and bounced out to spring break for some fun.
He'll be back once things blow over with whoever he was liking, once they stop paying attention to him.
Virgo men get distracted easily by woman. They are the same as Leo men with wanting attention and wanting to be adored but at least Leo's are known for being loyal.
They want a women going bat shit crazy with jealousy for them while they do this sort of shit and if you don't, that means you don't care.
Virgo men live in the moment and take opportunities as they come, I find them to be very sneaky and manipulative, while seeming innocent.
They have the gift of gab just like a Gemini, and are smooth talkers who can get themselves out of any situation with their charm.
I still like them, I just can't hang with how attention seeking they are towards anyone showing them interest. I'm not jealous enough to compete.
He has leo mars. But everything else is in Virgo.
Thats what I'm thinking too...like in a span of 4 days he was in Miami...he definitely had to have talked to his friends. Arranged where they are staying, put in notice for work and so on. At the minimum he had to have been thinking about it for the last week.
Him and I had a thorough convo of what we are like in relationships, both of us are very very possessive of our SO. So there was no way I was going to let him go with 3 women while I'm his SO (same applies to me).
This is why Cancer and Aries women work best with them, because they fight for their men when they behave like this.
I don't have time to run after community dick and try to make it mine.
I am quiet for now but Im not letting it slide, thats for sure.
"No, you can’t make me yours then take it all back after 2 days. Hop on a plane with only 3 other women to Miami exactly four days later and expect things to be okay between us. I'd fight for you but I won't chase after you." is what I plan on saying.
If his male friends were there I'd be like ok whatever. Its a group thing; he is extroverted and likes hanging out in groups. But its HIM and only 3 other women is not cool to me.click to expand
Yeah Im not contacting him, theres no point
For some reason I don't trust a man that has "many" female friends. Sounds sketchy
Virgo men tend to not know what they want and they give and take their words as they please..
I had a similar experience with a heavy Virgo man, recently..
Virgo men tend to not know what they want and they give and take their words as they please..
I had a similar experience with a heavy Virgo man, recently..
Posted by pisceanlovesThis is the last virgo man I will ever deal with :/
For some reason I don't trust a man that has "many" female friends. Sounds sketchy
Virgo men tend to not know what they want and they give and take their words as they please..
I had a similar experience with a heavy Virgo man, recently..
He acts more like an indecisive air sign than a grounded earth sign. I'm over it...what happened with yours?
Posted by Gem03
Yeah Im not contacting him, theres no point
So he posted a picture of him and one of the girls sitting together for lunch.....the other 2 were also there but I feel sad
I found out that she posted the same pic on her instagram and tagged him....1 of his friend commented "fav couple".
He came back on friday and hit me up. He said "How are you?" I said im okay. We made small talk then I casually poked at the pic and was like "Imma need your friend's skincare routine lmao" (he knows I'm obsessed with skincare and haircare. He replied with "My friends skincare routine is makeup and photoshop lmao...I legit saw her put makeup on and photoshop it. Its all smoke and mirrors." He referred to her as his friend
I brought up the stuff he told me (lovey dovey shit) and how he agreed to be with me. He said "I was confused then but I run from commitment thats all." I asked if he wanted to hang out he said he missed me and how important doing activities together is. He said "I was thinking about that too but something is holding me back". I asked " what is holding you back?" he said "Beats me."
Im opening up my options rn....my major flaw is when Im in a talking stage I drop my options I'm loyal without a title. Never again.
He came back on friday and hit me up. He said "How are you?" I said im okay. We made small talk then I casually poked at the pic and was like "Imma need your friend's skincare routine lmao" (he knows I'm obsessed with skincare and haircare. He replied with "My friends skincare routine is makeup and photoshop lmao...I legit saw her put makeup on and photoshop it. Its all smoke and mirrors." He referred to her as his friend
I brought up the stuff he told me (lovey dovey shit) and how he agreed to be with me. He said "I was confused then but I run from commitment thats all." I asked if he wanted to hang out he said he missed me and how important doing activities together is. He said "I was thinking about that too but something is holding me back". I asked " what is holding you back?" he said "Beats me."
Im opening up my options rn....my major flaw is when Im in a talking stage I drop my options I'm loyal without a title. Never again.
Posted by Gem03Posted by pisceanloves
For some reason I don't trust a man that has "many" female friends. Sounds sketchy
Virgo men tend to not know what they want and they give and take their words as they please..
I had a similar experience with a heavy Virgo man, recently..
This is the last virgo man I will ever deal with :/
He acts more like an indecisive air sign than a grounded earth sign. I'm over it...what happened with yours?click to expand
Couldn't make up his mind about what he wanted. Giving silent treatment each time he disliked something. Would avoid disagreement at all cost. Wouldn't show up when you needed him the most. Huge, very fragile ego.
Would drive the most secure person to insecure. Would avoid making promises. When I held him accountable for something he did wrong - I got blocked. Then unblocked, then I tried to find out where I stood - I got blocked again. Would never apologize. I only heard him saying sorry once in our 2+ years relationship or whatever that was. I got sick of constantly walking on eggshells.
Also even tho there was no official "break up" - he blames me for that. As it turns out he misunderstood my question "if it was over" for a statement that it was over! (?)
Huh???
His sh***y behavior was telling me he wanted out so I generously gave him a permission to speak his mind. He implied that as me saying we were done.. What the actual hell you tell me.
Um I chose to gracefully let go. I sent him this:
"I thought about everything. More than my feelings for you, I truly appreciate you. You’ve been there for me when I needed you and without judgment.
I want you to be happy, be safe and 100% sure when/if you enter a relationship (be it me or anyone else). Issue is I fell for you, hard. Your heart isn’t into it and you have a major fear of commitment. While I want someone who is 100% all in with me. I will only enter a relationship if we are both all in. If not then its a useless title. You are not in a mindset where you can give me that and that is okay. That is valid.
My intent was never to force something. I didn’t pick up on how emotionally taxing it was for you.
Right now you and I want different things for ourselves. I remember how you brought up that you were worried i might hate you if things don’t work out. I am not upset or angry with you and I could never hate you. I want nothing more than for you to be happy. Honesty and communication go a long way with me. I’d like to think you’ve been honest with me and thats what I respect the most.
I just want you to know. If we find our way back to each other later on (10 weeks, a month or couple months)…in a relationship with each other or just as platonic friends, thats okay too. Im leaving the door open. There are exactly 3 people in my life I was able to open up to, you’re 1 of them. So, I’m hoping we do. For now I think both of us could use space from each other. Let me know what you think."
His response: "This is why I can't ever hurt you. You're literally the best person I know. I have a huge fear of commitment. I need to know everything about the person. I still treat you like my top priority that hasn't changed. You are ready but I am still warming up"
We talked some more but I am basically letting go.
"I thought about everything. More than my feelings for you, I truly appreciate you. You’ve been there for me when I needed you and without judgment.
I want you to be happy, be safe and 100% sure when/if you enter a relationship (be it me or anyone else). Issue is I fell for you, hard. Your heart isn’t into it and you have a major fear of commitment. While I want someone who is 100% all in with me. I will only enter a relationship if we are both all in. If not then its a useless title. You are not in a mindset where you can give me that and that is okay. That is valid.
My intent was never to force something. I didn’t pick up on how emotionally taxing it was for you.
Right now you and I want different things for ourselves. I remember how you brought up that you were worried i might hate you if things don’t work out. I am not upset or angry with you and I could never hate you. I want nothing more than for you to be happy. Honesty and communication go a long way with me. I’d like to think you’ve been honest with me and thats what I respect the most.
I just want you to know. If we find our way back to each other later on (10 weeks, a month or couple months)…in a relationship with each other or just as platonic friends, thats okay too. Im leaving the door open. There are exactly 3 people in my life I was able to open up to, you’re 1 of them. So, I’m hoping we do. For now I think both of us could use space from each other. Let me know what you think."
His response: "This is why I can't ever hurt you. You're literally the best person I know. I have a huge fear of commitment. I need to know everything about the person. I still treat you like my top priority that hasn't changed. You are ready but I am still warming up"
We talked some more but I am basically letting go.
Posted by pisceanlovesI am so sorry you had to go through that thats awfulPosted by Gem03Posted by pisceanloves
For some reason I don't trust a man that has "many" female friends. Sounds sketchy
Virgo men tend to not know what they want and they give and take their words as they please..
I had a similar experience with a heavy Virgo man, recently..
This is the last virgo man I will ever deal with :/
He acts more like an indecisive air sign than a grounded earth sign. I'm over it...what happened with yours?
Couldn't make up his mind about what he wanted. Giving silent treatment each time he disliked something. Would avoid disagreement at all cost. Wouldn't show up when you needed him the most. Huge, very fragile ego.
Would drive the most secure person to insecure. Would avoid making promises. When I held him accountable for something he did wrong - I got blocked. Then unblocked, then I tried to find out where I stood - I got blocked again. Would never apologize. I only heard him saying sorry once in our 2+ years relationship or whatever that was. I got sick of constantly walking on eggshells.
Also even tho there was no official "break up" - he blames me for that. As it turns out he misunderstood my question "if it was over" for a statement that it was over! (?)
Huh???
His sh***y behavior was telling me he wanted out so I generously gave him a permission to speak his mind. He implied that as me saying we were done.. What the actual hell you tell me.click to expand
Posted by Gem03
His response: "This is why I can't ever hurt you. You're literally the best person I know. I have a huge fear of commitment. I need to know everything about the person. I still treat you like my top priority that hasn't changed. You are ready but I am still warming up"
We talked some more but I am basically letting go.
Nothing says, "top priority" like telling someone your ready for a relationship and then a few days later backpedaling. Smh. Yeah definitely not hurtful at all to be led on like that... *rolls eyes
Your too nice and still prioritizing his feelings over your own. All he gives you is lip service and performance art. His actions tell a different story.
I hope you can truly move on and invest in someone who has the same end goal as you.
Posted by LadyNeptuneThank you I am back on the market so YAYPosted by Gem03
His response: "This is why I can't ever hurt you. You're literally the best person I know. I have a huge fear of commitment. I need to know everything about the person. I still treat you like my top priority that hasn't changed. You are ready but I am still warming up"
We talked some more but I am basically letting go.
Nothing says, "top priority" like telling someone your ready for a relationship and then a few days later backpedaling. Smh. Yeah definitely not hurtful at all to be led on like that... *rolls eyes
Your too nice and still prioritizing his feelings over your own. All he gives you is lip service and performance art. His actions tell a different story.
I hope you can truly move on and invest in someone who has the same end goal as you.click to expand
Correct....I thought about what kind of person I am. I didn't wanna be toxic or fight, thats beneath me I am grown not in high school. I will also not sit around and teach a man how to treat me. Either treat me right or get left lol
I will never chase a man or compete for one. His loss bc I cared about him from such a deep place. I wanted nothing more than to give this man everything and if thats not good enough for him then I walk. I'm not going to try and CONVINCE you of my value, if you don't see it then goodbye.
Last virgo man I ever look at lol. At one point in our convo he was like "I'm so surprised by how you are bc I always think I'm a horrible person" I was like dude what? But whatever. I won't keep a man who doesn't want me lol
Posted by Gem03Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Gem03
His response: "This is why I can't ever hurt you. You're literally the best person I know. I have a huge fear of commitment. I need to know everything about the person. I still treat you like my top priority that hasn't changed. You are ready but I am still warming up"
We talked some more but I am basically letting go.
Nothing says, "top priority" like telling someone your ready for a relationship and then a few days later backpedaling. Smh. Yeah definitely not hurtful at all to be led on like that... *rolls eyes
Your too nice and still prioritizing his feelings over your own. All he gives you is lip service and performance art. His actions tell a different story.
I hope you can truly move on and invest in someone who has the same end goal as you.
Thank you I am back on the market so YAY
Correct....I thought about what kind of person I am. I didn't wanna be toxic or fight, thats beneath me I am grown not in high school. I will also not sit around and teach a man how to treat me. Either treat me right or get left lolclick to expand
I feel you on trying to remain above the toxicity and be kind.
But at the same time you literally told him you are leaving the door open to the possibility of a future in the future.
Which is telling him he can act the fool, treat you as an option, and literally you will still be an option "in the future".
I guess I'm just a more brutal person lol. I've literally told dudes in the past that x, y, and z is why you blew it and I hope you can absorb this information and figure out your shit before doing this to the next girl. Because your gonna end up with the same outcome.
Posted by LadyNeptuneAt the end of the day, I don't hate him. He is emotionally unavailable and 22 years old so he's gonna act like a fool. The future thing also depends on me as much as it does on him. Maybe I'll have found the love of my life by the time he comes around lol who knows.Posted by Gem03Posted by LadyNeptunePosted by Gem03
His response: "This is why I can't ever hurt you. You're literally the best person I know. I have a huge fear of commitment. I need to know everything about the person. I still treat you like my top priority that hasn't changed. You are ready but I am still warming up"
We talked some more but I am basically letting go.
Nothing says, "top priority" like telling someone your ready for a relationship and then a few days later backpedaling. Smh. Yeah definitely not hurtful at all to be led on like that... *rolls eyes
Your too nice and still prioritizing his feelings over your own. All he gives you is lip service and performance art. His actions tell a different story.
I hope you can truly move on and invest in someone who has the same end goal as you.
Thank you I am back on the market so YAY
Correct....I thought about what kind of person I am. I didn't wanna be toxic or fight, thats beneath me I am grown not in high school. I will also not sit around and teach a man how to treat me. Either treat me right or get left lol
I feel you on trying to remain above the toxicity and be kind.
But at the same time you literally told him you are leaving the door open to the possibility of a future in the future.
Which is telling him he can act the fool, treat you as an option, and literally you will still be an option "in the future".
I guess I'm just a more brutal person lol. I've literally told dudes in the past that x, y, and z is why you blew it and I hope you can absorb this information and figure out your shit before doing this to the next girl. Because your gonna end up with the same outcome.click to expand
You wanna know what's funny? He came back on Friday from Miami then we first talked on Saturday.
Him: "I miss you too"
Me: "Come see me you know my address"
Him: "Lol do you not care about the 14 day quarantine thing? I like you so I will stay away"
*Sunday night I send him that wall of text and being like space is good and I'm letting go of my feelings*
Monday afternoon he had an eye appointment at 1pm and they put some drops in his eyes so he was kinda half blind while driving yet right after drove an hour to come see me.
I let him come, I wanted the last time we hung out to be a decent memory. We cuddled and kissed. It was obvious he wanted to mend things and have me forget about taking space. Before he left I said those things in person to him so they are permanent and I am able to let go.
Why do men do the most only when you are about to leave??
Him: "I miss you too"
Me: "Come see me you know my address"
Him: "Lol do you not care about the 14 day quarantine thing? I like you so I will stay away"
*Sunday night I send him that wall of text and being like space is good and I'm letting go of my feelings*
Monday afternoon he had an eye appointment at 1pm and they put some drops in his eyes so he was kinda half blind while driving yet right after drove an hour to come see me.
I let him come, I wanted the last time we hung out to be a decent memory. We cuddled and kissed. It was obvious he wanted to mend things and have me forget about taking space. Before he left I said those things in person to him so they are permanent and I am able to let go.
Why do men do the most only when you are about to leave??
Posted by Gem03I feel like this is not the end of story lol. I mean, I feel like after this of course he is not gonna gracefully let you go, he will pop up here and there. Like before.
You wanna know what's funny? He came back on Friday from Miami then we first talked on Saturday.
Him: "I miss you too"
Me: "Come see me you know my address"
Him: "Lol do you not care about the 14 day quarantine thing? I like you so I will stay away"
*Sunday night I send him that wall of text and being like space is good and I'm letting go of my feelings*
Monday afternoon he had an eye appointment at 1pm and they put some drops in his eyes so he was kinda half blind while driving yet right after drove an hour to come see me.
I let him come, I wanted the last time we hung out to be a decent memory. We cuddled and kissed. It was obvious he wanted to mend things and have me forget about taking space. Before he left I said those things in person to him so they are permanent and I am able to let go.
Why do men do the most only when you are about to leave??
That is assuming I'd have feelings for him by the time he comes around and is ready lol. I impulsively cut him off in October and he came back 3 weeks later. But I know he is good at icing people out with no care. I really have no clue, he's complex.
What triggered me to let go is the pic he posted of him and his female "friend" AND the fact that he said he wanted to be with me then 2 DAYS later he takes it back.
I went on instagram and she posted that same picture on her instagram, tagging him, saying "ya bestie could never". I looked at the comments and 1 of his best friends said "fav couple", another friend said "BEAUTY AND THE BEAST". But when I asked about her he referred to her as a friend. Also there is nothing more unattractive than a man who is fickle.
I don't have time for games. If I have to chase you then you do not want me. If there is another woman you are entertaining while talking to me I will leave. She can have you and I say that with the utmost peaceful and good intentions. No toxicity, no fighting. Just peace.
What triggered me to let go is the pic he posted of him and his female "friend" AND the fact that he said he wanted to be with me then 2 DAYS later he takes it back.
I went on instagram and she posted that same picture on her instagram, tagging him, saying "ya bestie could never". I looked at the comments and 1 of his best friends said "fav couple", another friend said "BEAUTY AND THE BEAST". But when I asked about her he referred to her as a friend. Also there is nothing more unattractive than a man who is fickle.
I don't have time for games. If I have to chase you then you do not want me. If there is another woman you are entertaining while talking to me I will leave. She can have you and I say that with the utmost peaceful and good intentions. No toxicity, no fighting. Just peace.
Mini update: so nothing happened but like 5 days ago I woke up and just blocked him on everything.
Posted by Gem03Sorry to hear that, but glad you could move on. There are other men who are ready for a relationship and don't need to wait around and see what else is out there first.
Mini update: so nothing happened but like 5 days ago I woke up and just blocked him on everything.
Good luck!
Idk which one of yall it was, BUT YEAH
He came back, texted me "Are you okay?". He said he was thinking about me. I talked to him as if i would to a friend. Gave him life updates, he gave me his.
He went onto say that "yeah you were ready and I was warming up. I know women tend to jump to conclusions and I think you did" (He was referring to that photo of him with the girl on his trip to Miami).
I had blocked him on all socials, I deleted his number I genuinely NEVER thought he would reach out. I told him and he said "I know". I then went on to say "Just letting you know I am not ready to unblock you or follow you back". I let him know that I am talking to someone (Leeb man with Cancer Moon) for a while. I may have vented a little bit but I am happy that I won't let him back in. I am emotional and it takes a lot for me to make logical decisions like this. Also, I felt okay, letting go again.
At the end he was like "well, imma leave you to it, you are talking to a new man now, bye".
He came back, texted me "Are you okay?". He said he was thinking about me. I talked to him as if i would to a friend. Gave him life updates, he gave me his.
He went onto say that "yeah you were ready and I was warming up. I know women tend to jump to conclusions and I think you did" (He was referring to that photo of him with the girl on his trip to Miami).
I had blocked him on all socials, I deleted his number I genuinely NEVER thought he would reach out. I told him and he said "I know". I then went on to say "Just letting you know I am not ready to unblock you or follow you back". I let him know that I am talking to someone (Leeb man with Cancer Moon) for a while. I may have vented a little bit but I am happy that I won't let him back in. I am emotional and it takes a lot for me to make logical decisions like this. Also, I felt okay, letting go again.
At the end he was like "well, imma leave you to it, you are talking to a new man now, bye".
Posted by Gem03Why limit yourself to one man when you can date two?
Idk which one of yall it was, BUT YEAH
He came back, texted me "Are you okay?". He said he was thinking about me. I talked to him as if i would to a friend. Gave him life updates, he gave me his.
He went onto say that "yeah you were ready and I was warming up. I know women tend to jump to conclusions and I think you did" (He was referring to that photo of him with the girl on his trip to Miami).
I had blocked him on all socials, I deleted his number I genuinely NEVER thought he would reach out. I told him and he said "I know". I then went on to say "Just letting you know I am not ready to unblock you or follow you back". I let him know that I am talking to someone (Leeb man with Cancer Moon) for a while. I may have vented a little bit but I am happy that I won't let him back in. I am emotional and it takes a lot for me to make logical decisions like this. Also, I felt okay, letting go again.
At the end he was like "well, imma leave you to it, you are talking to a new man now, bye".
Posted by saggurl88LMFAOPosted by Gem03
Idk which one of yall it was, BUT YEAH
He came back, texted me "Are you okay?". He said he was thinking about me. I talked to him as if i would to a friend. Gave him life updates, he gave me his.
He went onto say that "yeah you were ready and I was warming up. I know women tend to jump to conclusions and I think you did" (He was referring to that photo of him with the girl on his trip to Miami).
I had blocked him on all socials, I deleted his number I genuinely NEVER thought he would reach out. I told him and he said "I know". I then went on to say "Just letting you know I am not ready to unblock you or follow you back". I let him know that I am talking to someone (Leeb man with Cancer Moon) for a while. I may have vented a little bit but I am happy that I won't let him back in. I am emotional and it takes a lot for me to make logical decisions like this. Also, I felt okay, letting go again.
At the end he was like "well, imma leave you to it, you are talking to a new man now, bye".
Why limit yourself to one man when you can date two?click to expand
I don't know, I am drained. I feel like if I let him come back again after all the bullshit he pulled....I'd be erasing my boundaries. This man really told me i was his then 2 days later took it back and flew out with 3 other girls to MIAMI.
I don't want the rollercoaster. I crave stability, affection and loyalty
Posted by Gem03Posted by saggurl88Posted by Gem03
Idk which one of yall it was, BUT YEAH
He came back, texted me "Are you okay?". He said he was thinking about me. I talked to him as if i would to a friend. Gave him life updates, he gave me his.
He went onto say that "yeah you were ready and I was warming up. I know women tend to jump to conclusions and I think you did" (He was referring to that photo of him with the girl on his trip to Miami).
I had blocked him on all socials, I deleted his number I genuinely NEVER thought he would reach out. I told him and he said "I know". I then went on to say "Just letting you know I am not ready to unblock you or follow you back". I let him know that I am talking to someone (Leeb man with Cancer Moon) for a while. I may have vented a little bit but I am happy that I won't let him back in. I am emotional and it takes a lot for me to make logical decisions like this. Also, I felt okay, letting go again.
At the end he was like "well, imma leave you to it, you are talking to a new man now, bye".
Why limit yourself to one man when you can date two?
LMFAO
I don't know, I am drained. I feel like if I let him come back again after all the bullshit he pulled....I'd be erasing my boundaries. This man really told me i was his then 2 days later took it back and flew out with 3 other girls to MIAMI.
I don't want the rollercoaster. I crave stability, affection and loyaltyclick to expand
Posted by saggurl88LMFAO....I have sworn off of virgo men (Esp virgo moon men)Posted by Gem03Posted by saggurl88Posted by Gem03
Idk which one of yall it was, BUT YEAH
He came back, texted me "Are you okay?". He said he was thinking about me. I talked to him as if i would to a friend. Gave him life updates, he gave me his.
He went onto say that "yeah you were ready and I was warming up. I know women tend to jump to conclusions and I think you did" (He was referring to that photo of him with the girl on his trip to Miami).
I had blocked him on all socials, I deleted his number I genuinely NEVER thought he would reach out. I told him and he said "I know". I then went on to say "Just letting you know I am not ready to unblock you or follow you back". I let him know that I am talking to someone (Leeb man with Cancer Moon) for a while. I may have vented a little bit but I am happy that I won't let him back in. I am emotional and it takes a lot for me to make logical decisions like this. Also, I felt okay, letting go again.
At the end he was like "well, imma leave you to it, you are talking to a new man now, bye".
Why limit yourself to one man when you can date two?
LMFAO
I don't know, I am drained. I feel like if I let him come back again after all the bullshit he pulled....I'd be erasing my boundaries. This man really told me i was his then 2 days later took it back and flew out with 3 other girls to MIAMI.
I don't want the rollercoaster. I crave stability, affection and loyaltyclick to expand
Update: Early June, I wrote a mini paragraph saying "When you said yes then 2 days later broke things off? It was painful and I compartmentalized it for awhile but that was fucked up. That was the trigger….not me jumping to conclusions. I genuinely hope you never do that to someone again. Goodbye".
He responded "Hurting you was the exact thing I was trying to avoid, my feelings for you have not changed. I’m glad you found someone else to talk to and I hope they are able to accomplish what I was unable to."
I left it at that then yesterday I was like I need answers. We had a day long convo about everything. He said he is cautious and wanted to take things slowwww bc he knows he is worth it. That he's a good catch. I was like how does one drag a talking stage to a YEAR. I called him out for being inconsistent. I can't type everything out lmao.
But I have unblocked him.
He responded "Hurting you was the exact thing I was trying to avoid, my feelings for you have not changed. I’m glad you found someone else to talk to and I hope they are able to accomplish what I was unable to."
I left it at that then yesterday I was like I need answers. We had a day long convo about everything. He said he is cautious and wanted to take things slowwww bc he knows he is worth it. That he's a good catch. I was like how does one drag a talking stage to a YEAR. I called him out for being inconsistent. I can't type everything out lmao.
But I have unblocked him.
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