Posted by AfternoonDelights22
It crazy tho that the show has Lisa return to be obsessed with Brad and lock him in a cage. Then a year later, David starts to become more and more of a criminal. Then Sheila comes to town and really shows her true colors. Then Michael goes to his lengths. All within 4 years of each other lol. But I think its the best time period of the show.
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I never liked Michael though. Or his brother. Or that entire family. Thats when the show went to shit in the mid 2000s imoclick to expand
Posted by aquarius09Posted by PhoenixRisingPosted by aquarius09Posted by PhoenixRisingPosted by aquarius09
I’m waiting for the Sheila bit.
This.
One of the best villians on Y&R.
Was there anyone crazier than her on Y&R? Victor is ruthless but Sheila was a straight criminal and looking to kill people.
I had to ask my sister. There have been a few. Most of this is before I started watching this show, but I stream some of the old episodes. From what I can remember from best to worst:
Victor Newman (but we all love him).
Sheila Carter
Rose Deville*
David Kimble
Patty Williams
David Chow
Michael Baldwin (before prison)
Phyllis Summer (before losing custody of Daniel Jr.)
Daisy Carter
Tom Fisher
*I don't know who Rose is, but my sister says she was as bad as Sheila.
Phyllis is a badass. She’s my fav but even she’s not Sheila bad. Daisy Carter and Tom Fisher were both assholes. I completely forgot about Tom and his abusive ways with Kevin.
I don’t know who David Kimble and chow is...that’s before my birth. LOL. Let’s not forget Gloria and her gold digging ways with John.click to expand
Posted by PhoenixRisingPosted by AfternoonDelights22
It crazy tho that the show has Lisa return to be obsessed with Brad and lock him in a cage. Then a year later, David starts to become more and more of a criminal. Then Sheila comes to town and really shows her true colors. Then Michael goes to his lengths. All within 4 years of each other lol. But I think its the best time period of the show.
Agreed. This was also when Brad transformed into the community penis. I think he's been with as many women on the show as Victor, but Victor never made his way through families like he did. Tracy, Ashley, Nicki, Victoria...Sharon(?). I didn't know about Lisa or who she was until you posted these clips.
I think Lauren wins the award for the most times being locked up in a cage by a psycho though. I had no idea she was locked up with Brad.Posted by AfternoonDelights22
I never liked Michael though. Or his brother. Or that entire family. Thats when the show went to shit in the mid 2000s imo
I was never a fan of the Baldwin-Fisher clan either. I just fast forward through their part lol----I completely forgot to add Kevin Fisher to the villain list. That whole pedo-scandal with Lily.
Idk, the show got spicy when Phyllis and Nick started up. I did not see that coming given Nick is technically 25 years younger than Phyllis and Jack is 35 years older than Sharon lol. Then I lost interest again.click to expand
Posted by AfternoonDelights22
Yes both Brad and Lauren were the biggest hoes on the show at this time lol. Always running through people. They probably needed to be locked in cages lol.
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I was also never a big fan of Phyllis so I guess that didnt help things. But I hated when the show basically threw away it's great younger set in the early 2000s (only rivaled by Days at the time) with Jt, Colleen, Raul, Brittany, Billy and Mac and the Baldwin-Fisher clan became one of the main points of the show. Once Drucilla was gone I was gone too.click to expand
Posted by PhoenixRisingYeah that whole situation was some bullshit. They utilized the black characters well in the 90s and even into the 2000's but yeah since then theyve wrote them badly. In the 90's the black audience for YR was so strong I think that is what helped them stay #1 in the ratings and hold off Days, AMC, and BB. They would help their slumping ratings a bit by bringing her back though. Days has brought back so many characters in ridiculous ways lolPosted by AfternoonDelights22
Yes both Brad and Lauren were the biggest hoes on the show at this time lol. Always running through people. They probably needed to be locked in cages lol.
LMAO!Posted by AfternoonDelights22
I was also never a big fan of Phyllis so I guess that didnt help things. But I hated when the show basically threw away it's great younger set in the early 2000s (only rivaled by Days at the time) with Jt, Colleen, Raul, Brittany, Billy and Mac and the Baldwin-Fisher clan became one of the main points of the show. Once Drucilla was gone I was gone too.
I wasn't a fan of Phyllis either until she got with Nick. I think I have a thing for forbidden/scandalous relationships. Once they got together I was over it. Until he left Sharon again for Phyllis lol. And again lol.
I completely forgot about the brat pack. Not sure why they got rid of them....and Drucilla. You know they killed her off because she made a big public stink about how blacks are represented on the show. Executives weren't here for. That's why they killed her off in such a ridiculous and permanent way. You can come back from a coma 5 years later, but there is no coming back from being "accidentally" pushed off a rocky cliff. They let her know, straight up "you're out". She tried to sue the network.
I made reference to it during the DXP Mafia League with your dramatic hit and run scene. No coming back after being flattened by a car lol.click to expand
Posted by PhoenixRisingPosted by AfternoonDelights22
Yes both Brad and Lauren were the biggest hoes on the show at this time lol. Always running through people. They probably needed to be locked in cages lol.
LMAO!Posted by AfternoonDelights22
I was also never a big fan of Phyllis so I guess that didnt help things. But I hated when the show basically threw away it's great younger set in the early 2000s (only rivaled by Days at the time) with Jt, Colleen, Raul, Brittany, Billy and Mac and the Baldwin-Fisher clan became one of the main points of the show. Once Drucilla was gone I was gone too.
I wasn't a fan of Phyllis either until she got with Nick. I think I have a thing for forbidden/scandalous relationships. Once they got together I was over it. Until he left Sharon again for Phyllis lol. And again lol.
I completely forgot about the brat pack. Not sure why they got rid of them....and Drucilla. You know they killed her off because she made a big public stink about how blacks are represented on the show. Executives weren't here for. That's why they killed her off in such a ridiculous and permanent way. You can come back from a coma 5 years later, but there is no coming back from being "accidentally" pushed off a rocky cliff. They let her know, straight up "you're out". She tried to sue the network.
I made reference to it during the DXP Mafia League with your dramatic hit and run scene. No coming back after being flattened by a car lol.click to expand
Posted by AfternoonDelights22
January 12 1989
Jill is very frustrated with David’s attitude at work. Lauren and her mother discuss Paul, and Lauren’s relationship with him coming undone. Meanwhile Paul’s mother tries to warn him off Cassandra seeing as she is married to George. George gets the bad news from his doctor that he has a terminal illness. What causes an argument between Jack and Jill? Who does Lauren go on a date with as she tried to get over Paul? Cassandra wants to be with Paul, but how will George handle the news of his illness?
Posted by PhoenixRisingAt some point Lauren entered a nude photo of Paul into a contest without him knowing (why idk) and he became a magazine centerfold xD That stifled their relationship lolPosted by AfternoonDelights22
January 12 1989
Jill is very frustrated with David’s attitude at work. Lauren and her mother discuss Paul, and Lauren’s relationship with him coming undone. Meanwhile Paul’s mother tries to warn him off Cassandra seeing as she is married to George. George gets the bad news from his doctor that he has a terminal illness. What causes an argument between Jack and Jill? Who does Lauren go on a date with as she tried to get over Paul? Cassandra wants to be with Paul, but how will George handle the news of his illness?
*like*
Paul was the sharpest dressed detective I've ever seen.
Why did Paul and Lauren break up? Was it because of the very married Cassandra or some other reason?
Mrs. Williams and Mrs. Fenmore were quite the meddling pair...Mrs. Williams in particular was quite crafty at laying the guilt trips.
*sips tea* Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm....the snark from David. He seems bothered by the fact that Jill was simply breathing in his direction lol. Then there is Jack....*living for the 1989 shade*.
The fact that David is still sulking about the "break-up" means Jill either has mad bedroom skills or he's pissed because the potential gravy train is heading in a different direction.
Is Cassandra more worried about Brittany finding out she is having an affair with Paul or is she huffing and puffing because she thinks Paul will leave...? Regardless she needs to have a seat. Or get a divorce. Already.
Lawd, not here for Lauren dumbing herself down by calling herself a "girl" and acting "helpless/lost".
Why is George's medical diagnosis still a secret? The build up to nothingness.
Sucks to be George. He thinks Cassandra will be devastated at the thought of losing him to his mysterious diagnosis, while she's more worried about losing Paul's peen.
Jill's signature forehead scratch....funny how it has evolved from a nervous gesture to indications of her frustration and annoyance.
Chase...snake or shrewd?
Side note: Jill's hair was everything and Terry Lester was a much better Jack Abbott than Peter Bergmanclick to expand
Posted by aquarius09
@afternoondelights22 - these posts will be your legacy on this website. Like veteran P-angel and Nefer, you will also leave your mark. One day you will be remembered as the non-active user who was very active in creating soap opera posts.
Posted by aquarius09
The biggest hoes of the show are Sharon and Nick. Slept with in laws and spare no one.
Posted by AfternoonDelights22
At some point Lauren entered a nude photo of Paul into a contest without him knowing (why idk) and he became a magazine centerfold xD That stifled their relationship lol
Posted by AfternoonDelights22
idk where I stand with Terry Lester vs Peter Bergman since Peter ended up playing him so long, but I do think Lester's charm certainly made his Jack different and sometimes more likableclick to expand
Posted by AfternoonDelights22
Well the YR consistency with eps that can be found online wont even out some until April 89 unfortunately, but here is some of the Caged Climax
Brad has come down with a major fever while stuck in a cage. This fever caused Lisa to let Brad out of the cage. Lisa goes to the store to get drugs for him. Brad took the opportunity to call a cab to try and leave, but he passed out from the fever. However, Lauren (who is meeting Jack for a ski trip) ends up at the same store as Lisa. What will Lauren’s suspicions of Lisa cause?
Posted by PhoenixRisinglmao I love those scenesPosted by AfternoonDelights22
Well the YR consistency with eps that can be found online wont even out some until April 89 unfortunately, but here is some of the Caged Climax
Brad has come down with a major fever while stuck in a cage. This fever caused Lisa to let Brad out of the cage. Lisa goes to the store to get drugs for him. Brad took the opportunity to call a cab to try and leave, but he passed out from the fever. However, Lauren (who is meeting Jack for a ski trip) ends up at the same store as Lisa. What will Lauren’s suspicions of Lisa cause?
*love*
prior to watching episode:![]()
Why was Lauren and Jack on a trip together?
How did Brad end up on the floor---outside of the cage? I'm guessing Lisa fell for his (Leeb) charm.
Why does Lisa ask stupid questions *yanks Scorp card throws it in the trash*
I totally expected Lisa to kick Brad's limp body when she realizes he was trying to leave, but that would be too much lol.
*smiles* at the fact that Lauren left a note at a store for Jack and he actually received it. Life before cell phones....
Lauren is clearly smarter than that random that believed Brad was Lisa's mentally ill husband that needed to be locked away to protect the public lol.
How is it that Brad was out cold, completely unresponsive, but suddenly becomes conscious and can stand up at the sound of Lauren's voice? And can talk and ask more silly questions?
Love the fact that Lauren sees Brad passed out on the floor, next to a cage and thinks Lisa is just going to let her take Brad out of the cabin...I guess...
Hate the fact that Lauren was completely useless. If they were in a room instead of a cage she'd suck the air right out of it panicking. Annoyed at the fact that Brad had to take time from almost slipping into a coma *side eye* to calm her down.
Lauren asks Lisa the stupidest of stupid questions "how are we going to get out of here?"...dying at the fact Lisa actually responded with "you're not". Life before the side eye...
And it gets better LOL...
"In the name of God Lisa, turn that gas off...and let us out of here. please *cough cough* please don't frighten us this way"
*lowers scarf* "I'm not trying to frighten you Brad. I'm trying to kill you". Lawd....I spit out my tea!
Lisa is bat sh*t crazy *slips her a conditional Scorp card*
After watching episode:![]()
Def a four star episode.click to expand
Posted by AfternoonDelights22
YR
March 14 1989
Sound quality is low. Both Jill and Katherine are irritated with the other regarding a party for Phillip and Nina’s baby. Lauren and Jack discuss one of Lauren’s many woes with one of her exes. George’s illness is getting worse. George has since learned about Paul’s affair with Cassandra and is plotting Paul’s downfall.
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lmao I love those scenes
I think she gotta keep the scorp card...
I think Lauren and Jack were getting closer than friends but both play too much
Posted by PhoenixRisingShe did indeed get away and was not found lolPosted by AfternoonDelights22
lmao I love those scenes
I think she gotta keep the scorp card...
I think Lauren and Jack were getting closer than friends but both play too much
I don't know. I need to see how she handles the Brad and Lauren situation. Obviously they are saved given the last epi I watched. Did she slip away just before Jack saved the day so she can plot another crazy kidnapping plan? If so, she can keep it.click to expand
Posted by AfternoonDelights22
She did indeed get away and was not found lol
Posted by PhoenixRisingroflPosted by AfternoonDelights22
She did indeed get away and was not found lolclick to expand
Posted by PhoenixRisingIronically, none of them are attractive or have game except for Michael. Michael is so underrated.Posted by aquarius09
The biggest hoes of the show are Sharon and Nick. Slept with in laws and spare no one.
I'd say Nikki and Victor hold the top spot, but Nick and Sharon are high on the list.
The only people that seem to be able to keep their legs close are:
Tracy
Ester
Aunt Mimi
Gina and
Michael (he's been married to Lauren forever)click to expand
Posted by aquarius09for a fairly short stint, she was a good villain in the end
We forgot Isabella in the nutjob villain category. I just remembered Eva Longoria. She was so beautiful back then.
Posted by aquarius09
We forgot Isabella in the nutjob villain category. I just remembered Eva Longoria. She was so beautiful back then.
Posted by PhoenixRisingYep! For some reason I also remember that storyline very clearly too. Perhaps because she was too beautiful an actress to be perceived as deranged.Posted by aquarius09
We forgot Isabella in the nutjob villain category. I just remembered Eva Longoria. She was so beautiful back then.
*like*
I was off and on from the Y&R during her time on the show. If I am remembering correctly (don't ask me why this irrelevant nonsense is stored in my brain, I just retain information like a sponge) I believe that was when Paul and Cricket were married? And she tried to drown Cricket in a bubble bath lol?
And she also gave birth to a soon to be deranged son Ricky Williams. Another villain we forgot.click to expand
Posted by AfternoonDelights22
April 4 1989
Leanne still has Victor fooled. Nikki and Ashley chat about Victor and Leanne. Paul and his mother argue about him still being involved with Cassandra. Paul’s dad then questions him about George. Jill thinks she stopped Phillip and Nina’s wedding…but did she?
Posted by aquarius09Posted by PhoenixRisingPosted by aquarius09
We forgot Isabella in the nutjob villain category. I just remembered Eva Longoria. She was so beautiful back then.
*like*
I was off and on from the Y&R during her time on the show. If I am remembering correctly (don't ask me why this irrelevant nonsense is stored in my brain, I just retain information like a sponge) I believe that was when Paul and Cricket were married? And she tried to drown Cricket in a bubble bath lol?
And she also gave birth to a soon to be deranged son Ricky Williams. Another villain we forgot.
Yep! For some reason I also remember that storyline very clearly too. Perhaps because she was too beautiful an actress to be perceived as deranged.click to expand
Posted by PhoenixRisinglmao I guess I better get to posting new episodes soonPosted by AfternoonDelights22
April 4 1989
Leanne still has Victor fooled. Nikki and Ashley chat about Victor and Leanne. Paul and his mother argue about him still being involved with Cassandra. Paul’s dad then questions him about George. Jill thinks she stopped Phillip and Nina’s wedding…but did she?
I have toilet paper, cleaning supplies, soap and food...now for the entertainment.
Cassandra's remorse over George's death is.....just....just. *sips tea*
Shocked Paul and Cassandra didn't have a quicky...I mean who drinks tea with a forbidden lover? *smirk*
Carl and I had the same response to the coroner's feedback regarding George's time of death.
Paul and I had the same question/response to Cassandra's questions regarding his visit with George. Really? Who the hell cares about what was going through George's mind before he died---she says right after bellyaching about never being free of George so...![]()
Then she asks to be held after accusing--not accusing--Paul of murder:![]()
Jill's hair tease was the sh*t.
Mary Williams sees all. Especially the bullsh*t and the f*ckery.
When did Nicki and Ashley get so chummy?
LOL "think of all the things you can buy with $ 5....." millionaire's daughter. Wow, Leanna must have been hooooorny because she clearly done lost all of her common sense.
LOLOLOLOL! @ Victoria spilling all the tea.
Confused as to why Victor and Leanna can't have sex after Victoria goes to bed.
Annoyed by the fact that Carl couldn't just get to the point and tell Paul he was under suspicion for murder. Lawd.
"MY God, I am the trustee and the administrator of his entire estate. So doesn't that tell you how the man felt about me?!"...it's a good motive for killing him lol.
As an aside, that commercial made me consider watching As The World Turns..."don't fight the temptation".
And The Bold and the Beautiful:click to expand
Posted by PhoenixRisingI missed this post
Nights, I know you don't like night time soaps, but I swear Jill and Katherine have nothing on Alexis vs Krystle from Dynasty (1980s version though). Alexis was the Queen of Shade and Krystle could go toe to toe with her without missing a beat. Can't really speak for the Dynasty modernized reboot.
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lmao I guess I better get to posting new episodes soon
Posted by AfternoonDelights22
April 5 1989
The Abbots talk about their lives over breakfast. The sore subject of Brad comes up with Traci as they are now divorced. Brad’s been in the hospital. Lauren whines that an attract man like Brad is in the hospital pining for Traci. Jack puts the moves on Nikki. Cassandra is mourning George, but her mourning is being questioned. Is Cassandra pulling one over on Paul or is she genuine?
Posted by AfternoonDelights22
April 6 1989
Victor grills Paul about George. Can their arguing get to some truths? Jessica has two men fighting over her. Christine now has her father in her life. Is Traci fighting her true feelings for Brad? Will Brad give up on trying to get Traci back?
Posted by AfternoonDelights22
April 7 1989
Cassandra is questioned about George and Paul. Jessica has bad news for John. Jill has some business quarrels. Phillip and Nina are happy on their honeymoon. Paul learns that George wanted him removed as executive of his estate. Lauren tells Tracy about Brad’s (fake) setback at the hospital.
Posted by PhoenixRisinglmao you are on Jessica's neckPosted by AfternoonDelights22
April 7 1989
Cassandra is questioned about George and Paul. Jessica has bad news for John. Jill has some business quarrels. Phillip and Nina are happy on their honeymoon. Paul learns that George wanted him removed as executive of his estate. Lauren tells Tracy about Brad’s (fake) setback at the hospital.
*like*
So...."scarcely a day has gone by" where Jessica hasn't "thought about and gotten down on her knees" hoping to "some how, some day" see Jim Grainger again... I wonder if she took a day off from praying and thinking about him so she could recite her vows to John.
Jessica's trash.
Is it just me, or does George and Cassandra's home look identical to what will later become Ashley and Brad's home? Same couch...same staircase, bookcase...same landing.
Tim is overly invested in Traci and Brad's divorce...? Tim....![]()
On the other hand "look I don't care what my (overprice divorce attorney) Michael Crawford said. The fact is, Brad and I shared a life together . There was a time when that as very precious...."![]()
She clearly doesn't have an air moon.
Jessica's trash.
Carl Williams and his sleuthing skills again *thumbs up*. I see you.
Jessica's trash.
I liiiiiiive for Jill's facial expressions, big 80s hair and shoulder pads. The hair and the shoulder pads needs to stay in the 80s, but I dig it.
Jessica is trash.
Paul needs to just let this executor position go. F*ck, doesn't Cassandra get everything anyway? Just makes him look guilty.
Aside: I'm curious, how exactly does Paul get himself out of this clusterf*ck? *no spoilers please*click to expand
Posted by AfternoonDelights22Posted by PhoenixRisingPosted by AfternoonDelights22
April 7 1989
Cassandra is questioned about George and Paul. Jessica has bad news for John. Jill has some business quarrels. Phillip and Nina are happy on their honeymoon. Paul learns that George wanted him removed as executive of his estate. Lauren tells Tracy about Brad’s (fake) setback at the hospital.
*like*
So...."scarcely a day has gone by" where Jessica hasn't "thought about and gotten down on her knees" hoping to "some how, some day" see Jim Grainger again... I wonder if she took a day off from praying and thinking about him so she could recite her vows to John.
Jessica's trash.
Is it just me, or does George and Cassandra's home look identical to what will later become Ashley and Brad's home? Same couch...same staircase, bookcase...same landing.
Tim is overly invested in Traci and Brad's divorce...? Tim....![]()
On the other hand "look I don't care what my (overprice divorce attorney) Michael Crawford said. The fact is, Brad and I shared a life together . There was a time when that as very precious...."![]()
She clearly doesn't have an air moon.
Jessica's trash.
Carl Williams and his sleuthing skills again *thumbs up*. I see you.
Jessica's trash.
I liiiiiiive for Jill's facial expressions, big 80s hair and shoulder pads. The hair and the shoulder pads needs to stay in the 80s, but I dig it.
Jessica is trash.
Paul needs to just let this executor position go. F*ck, doesn't Cassandra get everything anyway? Just makes him look guilty.
Aside: I'm curious, how exactly does Paul get himself out of this clusterf*ck? *no spoilers please*
lmao you are on Jessica's neck
Don't you want her last days to be lived in peace?! xDclick to expand
Posted by PhoenixRisinglmao nah I def agree that she is being very annoying with JohnPosted by AfternoonDelights22Posted by PhoenixRisingPosted by AfternoonDelights22
April 7 1989
Cassandra is questioned about George and Paul. Jessica has bad news for John. Jill has some business quarrels. Phillip and Nina are happy on their honeymoon. Paul learns that George wanted him removed as executive of his estate. Lauren tells Tracy about Brad’s (fake) setback at the hospital.
*like*
So...."scarcely a day has gone by" where Jessica hasn't "thought about and gotten down on her knees" hoping to "some how, some day" see Jim Grainger again... I wonder if she took a day off from praying and thinking about him so she could recite her vows to John.
Jessica's trash.
Is it just me, or does George and Cassandra's home look identical to what will later become Ashley and Brad's home? Same couch...same staircase, bookcase...same landing.
Tim is overly invested in Traci and Brad's divorce...? Tim....![]()
On the other hand "look I don't care what my (overprice divorce attorney) Michael Crawford said. The fact is, Brad and I shared a life together . There was a time when that as very precious...."![]()
She clearly doesn't have an air moon.
Jessica's trash.
Carl Williams and his sleuthing skills again *thumbs up*. I see you.
Jessica's trash.
I liiiiiiive for Jill's facial expressions, big 80s hair and shoulder pads. The hair and the shoulder pads needs to stay in the 80s, but I dig it.
Jessica is trash.
Paul needs to just let this executor position go. F*ck, doesn't Cassandra get everything anyway? Just makes him look guilty.
Aside: I'm curious, how exactly does Paul get himself out of this clusterf*ck? *no spoilers please*
lmao you are on Jessica's neck
Don't you want her last days to be lived in peace?! xD
Haha, I think I was hungry when I watched that, which is why I stopped at three videos. Hungry or tired = grouchy.
Hell, I hope her last days are filled with all the happiness and latex protected peen she can get. I personally think that peen should belong to the man that choose her despite of her illness, family discord and social rejection, not some Johnny come lately that wants to romanticize the idea of commitment. Dr. Grainger shouldn't even be a consideration. I guess my Scorpio is showing..lol
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Posted by aquarius09Yeah the original Adam was the most interesting
Now that I’m home in self-isolation, I started watching y&r again. Good to know, Victor is still alive and remained with Nikki.
I heard that Phyllis is back with Nick. Main reason for watching it again 😁
The original Adam Newman was the best. Too bad he got fired.
Posted by AfternoonDelights22
April 10 1989
Leanne complains about Nikki and Victoria to Jack. Jack is worried Victor will figure out they wrote the Ruthless book about Victor. Victor spends time with Victoria and Nikki. Lauren and Scott get to know each other. Will Brad’s fake setback work on Tracy?
Posted by aquarius09
I heard that Phyllis is back with Nick. Main reason for watching it again 😁
The original Adam Newman was the best. Too bad he got fired.
Posted by PhoenixRisingEngan was the better actorPosted by aquarius09
I heard that Phyllis is back with Nick. Main reason for watching it again 😁
The original Adam Newman was the best. Too bad he got fired.
Okay, I got to get back into Y&R then. And please tell me Michelle Stafford is playing Phyllis. I just can't get behind this other chick.
I think you're referring to the second actor that played Adam (Michael Muhney) not the first (Chris Engen). Engen supposedly left because he was uncomfortable about having to play/pretend to be a gay character and get involved with Rafe (if I remember his name correctly).
I'm curious why Muhney was fired. Personally I thought he looked too old for the age he was supposed to be playing and looked angry all the time lol. I think the first one was the most interesting because of the character development at the time, same with the third (Justin Hartley). Justin is my fav.
Apparently there is now a fourth? If so, no spoilers on how he reappears pls. I want to catch up and figure out how he survived, a gun shot, being burnt to a crisp/drowning, plastic surgery and then being blown to sh*t, but Drusilla is still dangling off a cliff somewhere never to return...click to expand